[hosepipe]

[.. And it doesn't take a magisterium to determine if the fruit is good. It takes God-given discernment. You've spent months telling us how difficult, even impossible, it is to be saved unless one is under the umbrella of the Vatican or the EO. ..]

Indeed a leaking umbrella tattered all full of holes.. This umbrella is a perceived one.. not even existing until @300 a.d. or so, and then not universally... One solid organization existing with one top down hierarchy(on this planet) for 2000 years is a lie.. and is probably heresy.. Where do lies come from?..

[Dr. Eckleburg]

One solid organization existing with one top down hierarchy(on this planet) for 2000 years is a lie.. and is probably heresy.

Amen. Although the church does exist on earth because Christ is the head of it. It's just that it's not in Rome, nor is it all contained within any one church. Some churches have more truth than others; some none at all. But God's children are scattered far and wide. One day they will all be of one mind. Until then, we read the Scriptures and listen and learn in gratitude.