[D-fendr]

I think you’re headed off to totally depraved or some aspect of TULIP. I don’t accept your premises in most of your theology.

Please try a different analogy or tack to save time and further communications.

thanks...

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I've given you a dozen verses from Scripture which speak to God being in control of His creation.

Your response is to say you don't agree with those Scriptures. It's difficult to discuss the topic when we each use different measurements for the evidence.

Where do you disagree with the Scripture I offered?