[irishtenor]

That IS the predestination view. I am a Presbyterian elder. I believe in predestination.

[D-fendr]

That IS the predestination view.

Thanks, I did not recognize Perhaps I am confusing predestination of Calvinism vs. other theologies.

Does your church also teach double predestination, irresistable grace, total depravity... ?

By the way: What the dickens are you doing in a fallible church? :)