I have noticed it. The first verse clearly says that God (meaning the Father in +Paul's language). The second verse, Rom 8:11, is truncated. The full verse leaves no doubt that it was the Father who raised Him via His Spirit. It subordains the Spirit to the Father.
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
The credit still goes to Father. The third verse is of course +John which, unlike +Paul, correctly teaches that it was Jesus who raised Himself, which the Church incorporated into the Creed. We cannot mix and match divine Hypostases, although the Three are never without each other, their separate roles and identities in the divine economy of our salvation are not to be confused, mixed.
+Paul, on the other had, on more than one occasion puts "God" above Christ, such as 1 Cor 11:13
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
The subordination of Christ to God in +Paul's eyes is very clear. +Paul's concept of the Spirit seems to reflect the Judaic and not the Trinitarian view.
Nowhere does the Bible call the Holy Spirit "Lord." Both the Spirit and the Son are subordained to "God" (meaning the Father, without specifying it as such). This shows that early Christians did not have a well developed and clear Trinitarian doctrine. That is evident from all the different Christological and Trinitarian heresies that sprang up among various groups who followed or at least professed to be the followers of Jesus Christ.
No, to my knowledge we are given no indication at all that the Spirit indwelt Adam and Eve before the Fall. Do you have any evidence?
Were they not under grace?
Jesus sent the Spirit to sinners. Adam had no need for salvation before he sinned, so the Spirit should not have been in him until when and if he ever repented.
So, the Holy Spirit will not indwell in heaven?
In the abstract, "Yes", murder does not disqualify one from Heaven
Even though one of the Commandments is clear about that. Why then give commandments?
But no true believing Protestant takes this as a "license" to murder
But if a murderous impulse is reached and acted upon, no big deal. Salvation is assured. I am sorry, this way of thinking may not give license to kill, but it makes mockery of commandments and laws because, ultimately, all laws and everything we do are meaningless as far as our salvation is concerned, which is why Luther says "I can commit 1,000 murders a day" and God wills till forgive me. Rules are no barriers to "act on impulse" since no matter what i do my sins are forgiven...it's insane.
"But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you."
The credit still goes to Father.
No it doesn't. How can you say that the Spirit of God does nothing as a person but the Son of God does? That just erases the personhood of the Spirit. You can't mean to do that.
The third verse is of course +John which, unlike +Paul, correctly teaches that it was Jesus who raised Himself, which the Church incorporated into the Creed. We cannot mix and match divine Hypostases, although the Three are never without each other, their separate roles and identities in the divine economy of our salvation are not to be confused, mixed.
And I suppose you know that John was right and Paul was flat out wrong because the Church tells you so? It's interesting that the Church which seeks credit for writing and Canonizing the Bible is the same Church that declares it full of error. I realize that some of your opinions on the OT may not be fully backed by the Church, but this is the NT and it's in the Creed. Therefore, my guess is that the Church is declaring Paul to be wrong. ...... I'm not sure what you mean by mixing and matching. These verses reveal that the one true God raised Jesus from the dead, and that we shouldn't confuse personhood with the Godhead.
+Paul, on the other had, on more than one occasion puts "God" above Christ, such as 1 Cor 11:3 - "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."
No, Christ fulfilled His role, but He was still God, and Paul knew that. It says everywhere that Christ prayed to the Father. Does that put God "above" Christ? No. Paul does not question the deity or essence of Christ.
Nowhere does the Bible call the Holy Spirit "Lord." Both the Spirit and the Son are subordained to "God" (meaning the Father, without specifying it as such).
The Bible is clear enough that the Spirit is God. For example:
Acts 5:3-4 : 3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God."
1 Cor 3:16 : Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?
Rom 8:9 : You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
John 14:16-17 : 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
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FK: "No, to my knowledge we are given no indication at all that the Spirit indwelt Adam and Eve before the Fall. Do you have any evidence?"
Were they not under grace?
Sure they were under SOME grace but it couldn't have been saving grace, or else eternal death would not have been earned upon the first sin (wages of sin). After that sin they needed saving since they were unfit for Heaven, just like the rest of us.
So, the Holy Spirit will not indwell in heaven?
I'm actually not sure of the mechanics of that, but I do know that we will be sinless and eternally in His presence.
FK: "In the abstract, "Yes", murder does not disqualify one from Heaven".
Even though one of the Commandments is clear about that. Why then give commandments?
I doubt that we really disagree about this. As I said above, the wages of sin is death, but the Bible also says that there is a way out of this punishment. Someone took the punishment for us, even for murder by a believer (like David). ...... One reason God gave His Commandments was to show us just how much we could not live up to His requirements. He gave them knowing full well that no one could keep them (outside of Christ). We are supposed to understand that.
But if a murderous impulse is reached and acted upon, no big deal. Salvation is assured.
Salvation is assured, but it IS still a big deal. Not only is there a great likelihood of earthly punishment, but there will absolutely be judgment for it in the afterlife.
I am sorry, this way of thinking may not give license to kill, but it makes mockery of commandments and laws because, ultimately, all laws and everything we do are meaningless as far as our salvation is concerned ...
Well, IS salvation earned by following commandments and laws or not? Wasn't one purpose for the coming of Christ to show us once and for all that the answer is NO?