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To: xzins
Let's say that Adolf Hitler is in hell.

Did that surprise God or did God always know it?

Not only did that not suprise God, at any given point in time God could have stepped in to change the course of Hitler's life and all of history.

But He didn't. That is not because man's will is so strong as to trump God, or because God somehow hands over His sovereign creativity to men (the creature is not a co-creator), but because God's ultimate design for His creation known to God from before the foundation of the world is exactly what unfolds in time and space.

Everything is as God intended, even the bad stuff which is given to strengthen us, to humble us, to chastize us, to correct us and to conform us to Him.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;

Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ." -- Ephesians 1:4-12

Who can read that and not understand? Christians, rejoice.

3,231 posted on 08/20/2007 11:43:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr

You’ve just said God intended the Holocaust.

That’s an unconscionably evil statement to make.


3,234 posted on 08/20/2007 11:46:13 AM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
but because God's ultimate design for His creation known to God from before the foundation of the world is exactly what unfolds in time and space.

Yes, I agree with that.

3,237 posted on 08/20/2007 11:56:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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