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To: stfassisi
[.. Historical Interpretations of Scripture regarding purgatory is not on your side,Dear Friend The Church Fathers who were involved in Bible Canon knew better than you . You trust their witness to give credibility that the Bible is the word of God, but yet you disagree with almost everything else they have to say. ..]

The supposed "fathers" of the Roman catholic church I don't follow.. The Holy Spirit was left in charge BY JESUS for that purpose.. MANY try to used "them"(RCC fathers) plus other clergy to wrest control of the "church" FROM the Holy Spirit.. buts that is not possible..

The word of God is liveing and operable and is attended by the Holy Spirit(paraclete) to the perfecting of the church.. and IT will divide soul from spirit.. as it doing to YOU right now.. BE CAREFUL.. dear one..

The Holy Spirit is looking over your shoulder as we speak.. and monitoring you.. Is God COOL or WHAT?..

3,230 posted on 08/20/2007 11:31:46 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
The word of God is liveing and operable and is attended by the Holy Spirit(paraclete) to the perfecting of the church.. and IT will divide soul from spirit.. as it doing to YOU right now.. BE CAREFUL.. dear one..

It is you who needs to be careful because it is your scriptural misinterpretations that is dividing the Body of Christ.

You may claim the Holy Spirit is leading you but there can only be one Truth. 2000 years of clear consistent teachings of the Saints and Martyrs is proof enough for me .

There are thousands of Protestant sects in the world today with more new ones appearing every week. Many use the same Bible, yet each interpret it differently, and consequently they end up teaching "another Gospel" (Galatians 1:8-9). The sad part is that they all try to justify their existence, and thus their actions of further dividing the Body of Christ by claiming.... "The Holy Spirit Told Me".

This is not in line with the teaching of Jesus Christ, as He called for "One Fold with One Shepherd" (John 10:16). These divisions of the Body of Christ are in opposition to the teaching of Holy Scripture, so how could it ever be possible that the Holy Spirit is prompting those who cause them?

"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, THAT YOU ALL SAY THE SAME THING; AND THAT THERE BE NO DISSENSIONS AMONG YOU, BUT THAT YOU MAY BE PERFECTLY UNITED IN ONE MIND AND IN ONE JUDGMENT." 1Corinthians 1:10.

"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." Matthew 12:25

The Bible is very explicit that those who cause these divisions are not from GOD, so therefore, the Holy Spirit could not possibly be prompting them.

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of GOD; because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. By this is the spirit of GOD known: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh , is of GOD. AND EVERY SPIRIT THAT SEVERS JESUS, IS NOT OF GOD, BUT IS OF ANTICHRIST, of whom you have heard that He is coming, and now is already in the world." 1John 4:1-3

More Scripture... "And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Advocate to dwell with you forever, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT NEITHER SEES HIM NOR KNOWS HIM. BUT YOU SHALL KNOW HIM, BECAUSE HE WILL DWELL WITH YOU AND BE IN YOU." John 14:16-17

"Many things yet I have to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when HE, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, has come, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THE TRUTH. For He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He will hear He will speak, and THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME HE WILL DECLARE TO YOU." John 16:12-13

What message do these verses convey?

To whom did Jesus speak in these verses? This dialogue was during the Last Supper and the only ones' present with Him were the Apostles. He told them that the Holy Spirit will dwell within the Church which He will found. He was not speaking to the masses here.

The truth is ONE, and is the person of Jesus Christ (John 14:6), that the Spirit certainly cannot declare a differing truth to each of the thousands of divisions of His Body.

There are three spirits, anyone one of which could be the one who is prompting a person.

1. There is first the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, and His prompting is from GOD. 2. Then there is the human spirit which manufactures the prompts through the imagination and other human traits. 3. Finally, there is the evil spirit and its prompting is straight from Satan.

The Spirit of truth is in the Church of truth, the Church which Jesus Christ founded.

Time to get work done! I wish you a Blessed day!

3,250 posted on 08/20/2007 12:28:03 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: hosepipe
The Holy Spirit is looking over your shoulder as we speak.. and monitoring you. Is God COOL or WHAT?

Very cool. And not just "monitoring," but leading all along the way.

"And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left." -- Isaiah 30:21

3,279 posted on 08/20/2007 5:20:54 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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