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To: P-Marlowe
Dear Brother, We both believe that we are covered by the blood of Christ ,but do you think you are free to sin because of it?

If you were to die right now do you believe you are sinless?

After Adam’s sin, the gates of Heaven were closed, and no one was allowed to enter (John 3:13) until Jesus Christ redeemed the human race and opened the gates once again. Where were the spirits of Moses and Elias, who appeared and spoke with Jesus at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3)? They could not have been in Heaven since it was closed, and they would have been lost had they been in hell. They had to have been in a third place. If there was a third place then, why not a third place now?

What about Lazarus? He was already dead four days (John 11:17) when Jesus arrived at his tomb. Where was his soul during those four days? It could not be heaven or hell for the same reasons as for Moses and Elias.
His soul had to have been in a third place.

Lets look at Scripture Luke12:58-59...

“If you are to go with your opponent before a magistrate, make an effort to settle the matter on the way; otherwise your opponent will turn you over to the judge, and the judge hand you over to the constable, and the constable throw you into prison. “

“I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.”

Released from Where?
Released from Hell? Nobodys getting out of hell, brother,hell is forever!

Released from Heaven?Nonsense!

Paid back the last penny of what?
Paid back the last penny for temporal punishment due to sin

Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase “in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti”) generally refers to the afterlife
Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and there is no forgiveness in hell. This proves that there is another state after death, and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory.

Listen to the words of many of protestant’s favorite Saint....

“And it is not impossible that something of the same kind may take place even after this life. It is a matter that may be inquired into, and either ascertained or left doubtful, whether some believers shall pass through a kind of purgatorial fire, and in proportion as they have loved with more or less devotion the goods that perish, be less or more quickly delivered from it. This cannot, however, be the case of any of those of whom it is said, that they ‘shall not inherit the kingdom of God,’ unless after suitable repentance their sins be forgiven them. When I say ‘suitable,’ I mean that they are not to be unfruitful in almsgiving; for Holy Scripture lays so much stress on this virtue, that our Lord tells us beforehand, that He will ascribe no merit to those on His right hand but that they abound in it, and no defect to those on His left hand but their want of it, when He shall say to the former, “Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom,” and to the latter, ‘Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire.’” Augustine, Enchiridion, 69 (A.D. 421).

Personally, I hope I will at least make it to purgatory someday.
Every funeral I have attended always seems to turn into a Canonization ceremony of the deceased.
When I die ,I want people to pray for my soul!

Time for Mass!
I wish you a Blessed Day!

3,173 posted on 08/20/2007 6:25:52 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi; hosepipe
If you were to die right now do you believe you are sinless?

If I were to die right now, the blood of Christ would cleanse me from all sin. I am not my own savior. I cannot earn a spot in heaven.

If you think you can earn your way into heaven or that you can somehow atone for your own sins, then you are probably not ever going to make it into heaven.

Well, you can remove the word "probably" from that sentence.

3,174 posted on 08/20/2007 6:33:13 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: stfassisi; P-Marlowe
If you were to die right now do you believe you are sinless?

None is sinless but Jesus Christ.

If any of God's children were to die right now, every sin they have ever committed, from the first to the last, would be forgiven by Christ's atonement on the cross.

This is the great chasm between the RCC and Biblical truth -- we are justified by Christ's sacrifice alone.

The point the RCC misses is that if we have been given faith in Jesus Christ we will not want to sin. Our sins will shame us and compel us to fall to our knees in repentance and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." -- Titus 3:5-7


3,235 posted on 08/20/2007 11:53:42 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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