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To: kawaii

OK, I see your OT and raise you a NT. Romans 4:3 “ What does the scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

Belief, not works. Belief, not baptism. Belief.

Nice try, though.


315 posted on 07/23/2007 8:34:54 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: irishtenor

yeah but Christ never broke the covenant God made with the jews, see that’d make God a LIAR which isn’t something a CHRISTIAN would allege. seems to me you’ve got some basic reading to do.

is there an FR little league you could head off to I don’t have time for basic Christianity 101.


316 posted on 07/23/2007 8:37:27 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: irishtenor

We believe that all those who receive Jesus as Lord are to be baptized as well as their children as a mark of belonging to God’s covenant people. We do not indiscriminately baptize infants, only the children of church members. This type of baptism is known as Covenant Baptism. Just as children in the Old Testament received circumcision as a sign of participation in the Old Covenant, children of believing parents have a portion in the New Covenant (cf. Acts 2:38-39, Colossians 2:11-12). However, a child is not saved just because he has been baptized. Rather, baptism is a sign that the child has the privilege of enjoying the external blessings of the Covenant, (i.e., he can hear the preaching of the Word, receive Christian training and nurturing from his parents and church etc.). When a child is old enough to express saving faith in Christ, he is examined by the elders and then admitted to the Lord’s Supper. A person does not have to accept Covenant Baptism to be a member of the church unless he is an Elder or Deacon. Only baptized believers who are members in good standing of an evangelical church may receive communion.

http://www.christian-civilization.org/highlands-reformed/presbyterian.html

wait those aren’t Presbyterians talking are they? oh but yeah they are.

so go ask your ‘pastor’ the real deal.


319 posted on 07/23/2007 8:42:17 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: irishtenor
Belief, not works. Belief, not baptism. Belief.

Amen.

Eph.2:8, Rom.3:28.

406 posted on 07/23/2007 11:06:53 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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