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To: kosta50
We all have a choice. If we have a choice we have freeodm to choose.

Your second sentence is not a logical outgrowth of your first sentence.

All men "have a choice" whether or not to jump out a window and try to fly. But men cannot fly, even if they flap their arms really hard.

All men "have a choice." And all men choose poorly unless and until God regenerates them. That's what the Bible tells us and I believe the Bible.

2,722 posted on 08/18/2007 1:34:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your second sentence is not a logical outgrowth of your first sentence

No, a choice has to be free to be a choice. A "choice" with a predtermined outcome is not a choice.

All men "have a choice." And all men choose poorly unless and until God regenerates them

Then it's not a choice.

That's what the Bible tells us and I believe the Bible

The Bible also says that God desires all men to be saved. Obviously you don't believe that part.

2,733 posted on 08/18/2007 3:27:31 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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