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To: wmfights

The whole problem is that of the concept of the elect.

The logical extension of such a concept is that the elect may do as they wish since they are going to be saved. Futher, the non-elect may do as they wish since they are not going to be saved.

But it flies in the face of the Biblical concept that all men are called to God, that God wishes hell on nobody, and that it is by your actions whether you accept or reject God. Do you have responsibility for your actions?

The premise of the elect automatically relegates us to irresponsibility, which contradicts great swathes of the Gospels, never mind the entire Bible.


2,677 posted on 08/18/2007 8:32:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The logical extension of such a concept is that the elect may do as they wish since they are going to be saved.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit indwells believers?

If you do believe the Holy Spirit indwells believers, do you believe it is dormant?

I believe our LORD and SAVIOUR and what He promised.

John 16:13 However, when He the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth...

2,682 posted on 08/18/2007 9:01:43 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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