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To: wmfights; Invincibly Ignorant; Diego1618; D-fendr; kosta50; xzins; P-Marlowe
Here a whole new theological perspective is being fashioned from a questionable interpretation of a single passage and this point is found nowhere else in Scripture.

I don't think it is questionable as I've given several scriptures. I understand that it is "new" because main stream churches don't teach it but it has been there all the time. Invincibly Ignorant posted other places in Jude that speak about the fallen angels.

How does reincarnation play out in this nterpretation of Scripture

It doesn't. There is NO reincarnation. I believe that the soul came into being when God first created it, whenever that was, was on earth in a spirit body (as we will again be) in the first age. Animals were flesh but we were spirit in that age. God destroyed that first age because of Satan's rebellion but He did not destroy us, our souls. All souls have to be born again (born from above) of woman and go through this 2nd. age to see if we follow Satan or God. At the end of this age, or when we die, our same spirit body steps out of this flesh body. We are the same soul throughout.

........Ping

2,416 posted on 08/13/2007 4:51:58 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong; Invincibly Ignorant; Diego1618; xzins; P-Marlowe
...places in Jude that speak about the fallen angels.

We have no disagreement about fallen angels. My point was angels can't procreate. They may appear in human form. They may seem to eat. They don't produce children. They are not human. They are angels.

I know you look at those two verses in Genesis and interpret them to mean they can procreate. I gave you what I believe is the better understanding and we are going to agree to disagree on this point.

All souls have to be born again (born from above) of woman and go through this 2nd. age to see if we follow Satan or God. At the end of this age, or when we die, our same spirit body steps out of this flesh body. We are the same soul throughout.

I understand you say this is not reincarnation, but it sounds like it to me. I have a bunch of questions so please bear with me.

1. Are there a finite number of souls? I would think the number would be limited by how many souls lived in the 1st age. Why test souls that didn't go through the 1st age.

2. I believe Jesus is our guide in all things. Did his resurrection and ascension include his body?

3. Are there any other references to the first age that tell us we only existed as spirits.

4. Are the souls that come through the line of Cain (satan's child) already condemned, or do they have free will even though their father is evil incarnate?

2,461 posted on 08/14/2007 6:12:14 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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