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To: RightWhale
Words are signs of concepts. We know we can't know objectively what is real, only if it is objective

I am glad you realize that too. So, let's not pretend then that speaking of concepts is something real. Let's keep concepts as concepts, fantasy as fantasy, and call cosmology what it is: shooting the breeze.

2,353 posted on 08/13/2007 11:13:34 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
let's not pretend then that speaking of concepts is something real

This is a further problem. It is pointless to speak of anything by that standard. Real is only subjective: what is spoken of is objective and objective is not a synonym for real.

2,356 posted on 08/13/2007 11:21:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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