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To: wmfights; D-fendr; P-Marlowe; Running On Empty; stfassisi; kosta50; Diego1618; xzins
Diego1618 - These twins had different fathers.....paternal twins, a somewhat common occurrence among prostitutes.
Wmfights - Even if all this were true, how could she be impregnated by a fallen angel?....Matt. 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.".....The angels can't procreate.

It tells us "like the angels of God in heaven". Is there a difference when they are on earth?

Gen.6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Because of the angels (who are now considered the "fallen angels") and their offspring, Geber, Nephilim, giants, God saw,(5)the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The results - He sent the flood (not the first flood that destroyed the world and every man and all creatures) but the flood of Noah.

So...God's Word tells us that angels did procreate while on earth. Those angels have been condemned because of that but not yet killed. They will be released again at the end of days:

Matthew 24:37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38.For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark.

"Giving in marriage to the fallen angels" and Christ is telling us that it will be that way again. I believe that Rev.6:12 refers to that time and event, when the fallen angels will be loosed:

And I beheld when He had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13. And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

This happens at the 6th seal (Satan's time is shown at the 6th seal, 6th. vial, 6th trump = 666). Those verses are speaking about the time he and his angels come to earth pretending to be Christ.

After re-reading this I realize I'm gettng off subject. Sorry....WmFights, thank you and a few others who may not agree with this but you have not closed your mind to it. You are one of the few that has actually asked questions to debate the ideas.

Thank you ...........Ping

2,278 posted on 08/13/2007 5:01:55 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong; D-fendr; P-Marlowe; Running On Empty; stfassisi; kosta50; Diego1618; xzins
Gen.6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

I knew the nephalim would get drawn into this. :-)

I believe these "sons of God" are the believers who began to marry non-believers and their offspring were non-believers. the "giants" in the earth can also be translated "fallen ones". IOW, those that are not believers.

WmFights, thank you and a few others who may not agree with this but you have not closed your mind to it. You are one of the few that has actually asked questions to debate the ideas.

You're welcome. Please do the same. I am convinced that this understanding of different ages and angels procreating with humans is wrong. The reference to the nephalim is the only instance where a possible interpretation of angels procreating with humans exists. Also, your understanding of prior ages is dependent upon the translation of key words. Do you believe that when the vowels were added to the Masoretic text mistakes were made?

2,287 posted on 08/13/2007 7:09:10 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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