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To: Alamo-Girl; kosta50; betty boop; wmfights; hosepipe; editor-surveyor; xzins; P-Marlowe
The scientists have been working their hearts out trying to get God out of the picture, because a beginning of real space and real time means there had to be an uncaused cause of it - and there can be no uncaused cause of space, time and physical causation other than God the Creator.

Girl, you do a much better job of articulating this than I can!

IOW, the harder science works to explain everything and disprove GOD, they actually do the reverse. Ultimately, all we have to do is insist on objectivity.

2,212 posted on 08/12/2007 11:08:09 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights
IOW, the harder science works to explain everything and disprove GOD, they actually do the reverse. Ultimately, all we have to do is insist on objectivity.

Precisely so, dear brother in Christ!

Thank you for your encouragements!

2,254 posted on 08/12/2007 9:08:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: wmfights; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; blowfish; kosta50; editor-surveyor; TXnMA
IOW, the harder science works to explain everything and disprove GOD, they actually do the reverse. Ultimately, all we have to do is insist on objectivity.

LOL!!! I have found that to be true as well, wmfights!

The difficulty is "objectivity" seems to be hard to come by these days; it seems many people either have something to sell, or an ax to grind....

Maybe that has something to do with the fact that the "objective" creation actually, in truth, was made by God -- and the dissenters know this very well, deep down. But they deeply resent having to acknowledge this, for "subjective" reasons. If you know what I mean....

To me, this is a flight from reality, from the very truth of being, in order to construct a "second reality," which cannot stand, because it is determined to exclude an indispensible sector of reality from its model. One cannot edit the world down into something more to one's liking without losing truth.

God will not be mocked. But humans will be deluded.

2,281 posted on 08/13/2007 6:14:43 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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