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To: Ping-Pong; wmfights; xzins; topcat54; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr; invoman
Do you disagree with everything their [Mormon] faith believes in?

Pretty much.

Now that you know I'm not a Mormon would you let me know why you take issue with the things I stated. Why do you feel they are in error?

I alread did. You initial premise regarding the singular heaven in Gen 1:1 and the plural heaven in Gen 2:1 is obviously in error since the word in Hebrew is the exact same word for both verses. Since your entire doctrine is based upon a false premise, what follows logically is going to be false.

Beyond that your idea that people earned their elect status is anathema to the gospel of Christ. No man has earned the grace of God either in this world or any other. It is a gift and not a reward. If you think you are elect because of something you did in a prior lifetime, then you are your own savior and Christ's sacrifice on the cross was for naught.

This strange doctrine is a road to damnable heresy. Go down it if you wish, but remember you are going DOWN that road and the road to heaven is UP.

The Mormons believe in a pre-existent life and that being born a Mormon is a reward for being valiant in the prior lifetime and supporting Jesus over his evil twin brother Satan. Those who sat by the wayside are born into other faiths and those who failed in their test were born black. It is a damnable doctrine and yours is likewise.

Your doctrine leads to the same end as the Mormon doctrine. Works based salvation, earned grace, God being a respecter of persons. All damnable heresies.

You really need to rethink you position on these strange doctrines.

Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein. (Hebrews 13:9 KJV)

2,157 posted on 08/11/2007 11:57:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
I already did. Your initial premise regarding the singular heaven in Gen 1:1 and the plural heaven in Gen 2:1 is obviously in error since the word in Hebrew is the exact same word for both verses. Since your entire doctrine is based upon a false premise, what follows logically is going to be false.

I don't agree that it is in error - it could be but the bible I use, Companion Bible, KJV, E.W. Bullinger, believes it is correct. So....we have dueling scholars. For the sake of argument, disgard "heaven/heavens" and concentrate on the other scripture about the earth ages.

Beyond that your idea that people earned their elect status is anathema to the gospel of Christ. No man has earned the grace of God either in this world or any other. It is a gift and not a reward. If you think you are elect because of something you did in a prior lifetime, then you are your own savior and Christ's sacrifice on the cross was for naught.

You read a great deal into what I said. Please remember when they earned this, the first age, those may have been the rules. Christ died for us in this age and in this age we can't earn salvation. I don't know about the other.

This strange doctrine is a road to damnable heresy. Go down it if you wish, but remember you are going DOWN that road and the road to heaven is UP.

I'm sorry you feel this is a strange doctrine as it is written in His word.

The Mormons believe in a pre-existent life and that being born a Mormon is a reward for being valiant in the prior lifetime and supporting Jesus over his evil twin brother Satan. Those who sat by the wayside are born into other faiths and those who failed in their test were born black. It is a damnable doctrine and yours is likewise.

Good heavens, I didn't know that. I don't believe most of those things P-Marlowe.

Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein. (Hebrews 13:9 KJV)

Thank you for the scripture. I'll take it to heart but at the same time other verses tell us to search the scriptures, to be fed meat, not milk.....I truly don't believe it is a strange doctrine as many scriptures tell us about it but I do realize it isn't taught in main stream churches. Why?

2,176 posted on 08/11/2007 5:18:06 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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