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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor; kosta50
This is not biblical or church teachings, but I would suppose that if Mary had said ‘no’, then she may not have included in Scripture.

Then for all we know Mary could have been God's 15th choice to bear His Son? :)

We don’t know; all we know is that she said ‘yes’ and we are where we are because of that acceptance.

Not really, since there never would have been any scripture if God had chosen to give up upon being told "No". IOW, if God would have simply moved on to ask the next young girl, then SOMEONE would have eventually said "yes". Even under your supposition, we are where we are ONLY because God refused to give up. So, Mary would only be worthy of your veneration IF God had decided it would be Mary or there would be no Christianity, AND that Mary was free to decline. Thankfully, God's love for His elect proved much stronger than taking a chance like that.

11,341 posted on 11/24/2007 6:59:52 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

Couldn’t have said it better myself.


11,342 posted on 11/24/2007 7:14:25 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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To: Forest Keeper

It could be that when God said a virgin would bear a child, he meant eventually that would happen, and when it does, then God will bless her, whoever it is. Then, a few hundred years later it happened. So then God sends a messenger to tell her of the good news.:>)


11,343 posted on 11/24/2007 7:19:20 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr
Then for all we know Mary could have been God's 15th choice to bear His Son?

No, because God knows our hearts and choices before they are made. In His foreknowledge, He knew Mary would be the person she was and was therefore the only candidate for the role. There is a difference between foreknowledge and predestination.

If God can handle the whole universe, I am sure He can handle our choices without having to make any of them for us.

11,348 posted on 11/24/2007 7:28:26 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper

I don’t think that the omnipotent and ever present God would have been stymied by a young Jewish girl.

Mary would only be worthy of veneration if she had done what she had done. I don’t understand the inability to understand such a concept. We think rather highly of George Washington because of what he has done. What’s the difference?


11,349 posted on 11/24/2007 7:29:35 PM PST by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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