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To: irishtenor
“So, the salvation of the entire world hinged of whether a little girl would make the right choice.”

Does scripture say otherwise,or say Salvation without Mary’s fiat? NO!

“”Mary could not have said no””

Why did God send the Angel Gabriel and why did Mary say "let it be done to me according thy word"? Do you think this was just for show?

Here is question for you now...

Did man crucify Christ by free will?

There is only one answer, because If man does not have free will,than it would mean Christ crucified Himself. Thus the answer has to be that Man has Free Will and used that FREE WILL to crucify Christ.

11,280 posted on 11/21/2007 11:48:14 AM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi

***Did man crucify Christ by free will?***

God is sitting up in heaven, enjoying himself, just hanging around. Then, suddenly, his Son appears.

God says, “Hey, I thought I sent you down there?”

Jesus replied, “Well, I guess they didn’t want me, they crucified me and tossed me in a tomb.”

God: “Great, now what are we going to do. If I left it up to them, no one would come. Boy, you plan and you plan, but hey, you can’t plan human nature.”


11,294 posted on 11/21/2007 6:46:04 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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To: stfassisi

***Does scripture say otherwise,or say Salvation without Mary’s fiat? NO!***

Mary had a sports car? Italian job, eh?

A fiat is an order or decree. Mary did neither. Mary did what the Lord told her to do. She had no will to do otherwise.


11,297 posted on 11/21/2007 6:57:12 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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