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To: D-fendr
...why you love God? To elaborate, you do not necessarily love everyone who loves you, so "because He loves you" would not necessarily explain why you love Him.

Is this why you love God? [because we understand our punishment]

Then you can make choices not to love God?

Why do you love God?


10,849 posted on 11/09/2007 12:35:22 PM PST by HarleyD (97% of all statistics are made up.)
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To: HarleyD
The ONLY reason I love God is because He has given me this love.

I believe it would be accurate to say you believe: A)This love is not given to all, and B) Once given it cannot be refused or denied. C) Your conscious decisions and life choices have no effect on this.

Herein lies much of our disagreement.

Here's an experiment, for the next week try to hate God. See how well you do.

I've done it. I still do it, though hopefully less.

Here's a quick summary of the theology - God's love does not shine on some and not on others. It can be refused, denied, contradicted.. we can make choices to, in essence, hate God.

To state these choices in the negative, we can choose to be ignorant, unmindful, forgetful, unwise, hating, selfish and prideful. All of these choices, in essence, are hating God. We can experience this cause and effect directly. If we pay attention.

What your experiment entails in short is that I increase my pride. I can choose to do this. It is a constant spriritual exercise not to.

If we choose to become more aware, mindful, wise, loving, remembering, selfless.. then God's love, for all, will become realized in us and through us. It is not a limited resource; the more we love the more love we have to give.

In this way, Jesus's teaching and ministry and His commandments are seen more clearly, more directly. Each person can do your experiment - positively and negatively - a see for themself.

10,853 posted on 11/09/2007 1:03:35 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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