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To: MarkBsnr
He was a true Pope, who wandered off into heresy.

Just as Augustine was a true Church Father who also wandered off into heresy. Origen might have been recognized as such if he had rejected and recanted his heresies. Augustine did and rightfully takes his place as a giant of the Church.


I'm afraid we are beating a dead horse. I admit I believe the "unbroken line of Popes, beginning with Peter, is a fiction. Whether the heresy of Honorius broke the line or not, considering the numerous gaps of 2-3 years, multi simultaneous Popes, and the lack of authentic history, is unimportant to me simply because I believe there never was such a thing.

By your argument Augustine was restored as a "Church Father" (another fictional/nonexistant list) because he "recanted and rejected his heresies".

Honorius was convicted of the heresy of teaching Monothelitism, a matter of faith and morals. The pope is speaking "infallibly" when speaking on a matter of faith and morals. Was Honorius speaking infallibly on a mater which he never recanted or was he not a Pope?

10,828 posted on 11/09/2007 8:53:48 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE

I’m afraid that you’re probably correct. We may just have to agree to disagree about the whole thing.

We believe that the Church never strayed since none of his infallable statements involved changing Church teaching regarding his heresy. That’s probably about as far as I can go without some more research.


10,836 posted on 11/09/2007 10:48:50 AM PST by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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