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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; HarleyD
Christ revealed the Good News, not the "bad news." The whole focus of Christ's ministry is salvation, not condemnation; the Kingdom of Heaven and not Hell.

Are you kidding? Christ revealed ALL the news meant for us from Him, not only the good. How can anyone appreciate what the Good News means without a clear understanding of what the bad news is? He cannot. How many lost people do you think are walking around out there simply because they do not perceive any need for God? Dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions, more? I'd say it's more. One of the main reasons they don't or won't accept the Good News is that they have no comprehension of the bad news (by God's design of course :). This is why I think it is so dangerous to sugar coat what hell IS and MEANS. If every person had a clear understanding of the hell that is portrayed in the Bible, there would be VERY few unbelievers.

It's an optimistic and joyful religion, FK. I highly recommend it.

"Optimistic and joyful religion[s]" are what Warren and Osteen preach. Instead of that, my pastor preaches a personal one-on-one relationship with Christ. Optimism and joy are wonderful and Godly things, no doubt. But when they supplant the truth of the word of God, then it becomes false teaching.

10,502 posted on 11/06/2007 3:42:37 AM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; HarleyD

“”Optimistic and joyful religion[s]” are what Warren and Osteen preach.”

FK, you know those two aren’t Orthodox nor do they teach Orthodoxy. That said, Orthodoxy, for all its ascetical and liturgical rigor, is remarkably joyful.


10,505 posted on 11/06/2007 4:02:37 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; HarleyD
Optimism and joy are wonderful and Godly things, no doubt. But when they supplant the truth of the word of God, then it becomes false teaching

And who is the supreme interpreter of the truth of the word of God? Your pastor? You? Is that biblical?

"Optimistic and joyful religion[s]" are what Warren and Osteen preach

I wouldn't know. But I know that Christ came to SAVE THE WORLD, FK. How about that little biblical truth?

If anyone wishes to subscribe to doom and gloom, fire and brimstones, that's their choice, but that's not the message Christ came to proclaim.

10,513 posted on 11/06/2007 5:22:26 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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