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To: kosta50; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
You can exist and be dead. Stones exist too, FK.

Stones are not dead, they are inanimate. There's a difference. However, I think I know where you all are coming from on the mortal/immortal issue. You equate a soul's mortality with its destination. I don't see it that way since I think they are two separate issues.

Those who don't [come to Christ] will be dead one day—does oblivion mean anything to you?

Theologically, not really. :) What does "oblivion" mean in Orthodoxy?

FK: "Then you have a special theological definition of the concept of immortality that is unknown to us."

No, I don't, FK. Soul itself is not life. It must be given life. Therefore it has no life of its own.

The soul is given immortal existence when it is created. That soul will spend eternity (forward from physical death) in either a glorified existence with God in Heaven, OR in a damned existence in hell. It will exist forever either way, so these are two different issues. Therefore, to combine these two issues into one means you are using a special definition.

How do you think we feel seeing all these innovations for the past 500 years?

Probably the same way we did at the time of the Reformation. :)

10,414 posted on 11/04/2007 6:20:47 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Kolokotronis

You can exist and be dead, FK. Existence and death are not mutually exclusive. If you are created you exist. If you are given life you live. If you lose it, you still exist but you are no longer alive.


10,421 posted on 11/04/2007 7:03:16 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper
Probably the same way we did at the time of the Reformation

The reformers said nothing of the Orthodox.

10,424 posted on 11/04/2007 7:08:14 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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