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To: irishtenor
“1 John says that God is love, and no one can love who does not have God. It is God who gives us the love to share with each other. He gives this love to his children. Those who are not his children do not get this love.”

Do you believe that God creates any person to NOT be His Children?
....Or do you believe that God creates and wills "all" of us to be His children? Another words...We have to freely accept God’s will, because we love God’s will, whatever God’s will may be for us-even if God's will for us is pain and the cross?

10,411 posted on 11/04/2007 5:18:49 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi

***Do you believe that God creates any person to NOT be His Children?
....Or do you believe that God creates and wills “all” of us to be His children? Another words...We have to freely accept God’s will, because we love God’s will, whatever God’s will may be for us-even if God’s will for us is pain and the cross?***

Yes. God said he was the Potter, we are the clay. Some he makes for good purposes, others he makes for not so good purposes. We are his to do as he wills. Note I said AS HE WILLS. It is not for us to question God and why he chooses as he does. We have no say in the matter. He chooses whom he chooses. We do not “accept God’s will”, we have no say. We only rejoice in him because we have been transformed. Only the transformed will be with God in heaven. We do not ‘choose’ to be transformed, God chooses whom he will transform. Read through Romans 9 about God’s sovereign choice. Please read it.



10,412 posted on 11/04/2007 5:31:24 PM PST by irishtenor (How much good could a Hindu do, if a Hindu could do good?)
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To: stfassisi
Do you believe that God creates any person to NOT be His Children?

Do you believe Jesus atoned for everyone without exception?

....Or do you believe that God creates and wills "all" of us to be His children?

What makes you think man born of Adam has a free will to choose God?

Another words...We have to freely accept God’s will

Is man born of Adam, born with a sin nature and love of sin and darkness, of the capacity to freely accept God's Will?

because we love God’s will

John 3:

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Man born of Adam is predisposed to serving himself and sin, and will not seek God, nor will he believe God.

John 3:

19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

10,453 posted on 11/05/2007 2:34:17 PM PST by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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