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Will the Pope's Pronouncement Set Ecumenism Back a Hundred Years? (Challenge to Apostolicity)
Progressive Theology ^ | July 07

Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins

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To: MarkBsnr
[.. But preaching the Word of God falsely, that is surely going to be rewarded in the everlasting lake of fire. ..]

Probably not.. HIJACKING the ministry of the Holy Spirit by rote worship of clergy, Will however.. The clergical spirit is Satanic.. it murdered the Lord of Mercy..

3,402 posted on 08/20/2007 9:11:47 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Are you possibly saying that if the Catholic Church was satanic, that it could kill the Holy Spirit?

I think that I’ll step back here and let the Holy Spirit have a crack at you without me in the way.


3,403 posted on 08/20/2007 9:14:44 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
[.. The only universal language at that point was Latin. ..]

Not true.. Koine greek and patois of it was..

3,404 posted on 08/20/2007 9:16:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: blue-duncan; D-fendr
does a prisoner by his will earn a pardon? No, the pardon is by the grace of the Judge

It's a good analogy, except that you hold that once you are pardoned you are also reformed and can never end up in jail again!

Not only that, the Reformed theology maintains that we were sentenced and parodned before we even existed! And that some can keeeon sinning and will never be sentenced again.

While others are just "out of luck," created for refuse, and destined to sit in jail for all eternity—that too by the "grace" of the Judge.

The only thing that is worse than an imitation is a bad imitation.

3,405 posted on 08/20/2007 9:16:06 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: hosepipe

During the Dark Ages?

Not by my understanding. Do you have different understanding?


3,407 posted on 08/20/2007 9:17:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: All
LISTEN UP.

This ugly childish troublemaking behavior will stop here and now and there will be suspensions or worse.

3,408 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: kosta50

***Not only that, the Reformed theology maintains that we were sentenced and parodned before we even existed!***

Yes, that is what we believe, based on scripture. God is in control of everyhing. He is the Potter, we are the clay. Some he made for noble purposes, others he made to be thrown away.


3,409 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:42 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: kosta50

Oh come on.

Don’t you mean that those theological itinerants sitting by the side of the highway begging for alms and getting ritually kicked in the face are really God’s itinerants?

I think that we both know how homicidal and sadistic was the individual who proposed that theological point. I really don’t get why the average person would find it attractive unles he was as sadistic as was the proposer.


3,410 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:51 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
[.. Are you possibly saying that if the Catholic Church was satanic, that it could kill the Holy Spirit? / I think that I’ll step back here and let the Holy Spirit have a crack at you without me in the way. ..]

NO,,, The Holy Spirit is a Spirit.. flesh cannot touch it/him..
You are not in the way, you are not in control..
The Roman Catholic Church is fleshly, earthy, mostly dirty, temporal..
As are most protestant churches.. its all in Revelation..

3,411 posted on 08/20/2007 9:23:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50

The Holy Spirit is directing everything. Do you really believe that the church is infallible?


3,412 posted on 08/20/2007 9:23:45 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: hosepipe

I don’t understand.


3,414 posted on 08/20/2007 9:25:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr
[.. During the Dark Ages? / Not by my understanding. Do you have different understanding? ..]

I am not follwing you mark?..

3,415 posted on 08/20/2007 9:26:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: MarkBsnr
[.. I don’t understand. .]

True..

3,417 posted on 08/20/2007 9:27:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: blue-duncan
It didn’t. It affirmed what the churches had been using all along and it wasn’t “The Church”. It was many churches who sent representatives to the council to affirm the canon. The standard was the scriptures, not the “Church”.

You are re-wiritng the history. but then Protestants make up their theology; why not history as well? It's pathetic.

It affirmed what the churches had been using all along and it wasn’t “The Church

You are wrong. St. Ignatius wrote as early as 105 AD that there is only one, Catholic Church, not many 'churches.' St. Justin martyr certainly did not speak of "churches" and neither did St. Irenaeus, or St. Clement of Alexandria, and so on. The canon as we know today was first proposed by St. Athanasius in the middle of the 4th century. It was accepted by the Church as a whole, as a standard, 30years later. That means that before 360 AD there was NO standard Christian Canon as we know it today and that many books we consider inspired today were either not listed or recognized as inspired by many churches prior to that.

Those are facts. Then there is Protestant fantasy.

3,418 posted on 08/20/2007 9:27:49 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: hosepipe

Too difficult to understand, eh?


3,419 posted on 08/20/2007 9:29:23 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

There is only one church? Which one, the Eastern Orthodox, the Roman Catholic, or what?


3,420 posted on 08/20/2007 9:31:34 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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