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Will the Pope's Pronouncement Set Ecumenism Back a Hundred Years? (Challenge to Apostolicity)
Progressive Theology ^ | July 07

Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
Is Satan a created being?

Yes he is, an angel no doubt. But show me in the Bible just when did Satan fall from grace. You won't find it in the Old Testament. reformed view of Satan is identical to Judaic concept of Satan: he is an obedient servant of God, not his nemey.

The Christian approach to villains is that God created them good and they choose to be evil. But when you take the free will out of the equation, then God makes them evil.

The gun itself is not evil, but if the gunsmith uses it for evil purpose it becomes evil. Are you suggesting God created Satan to use him for evil purpose? It sounds to me that you are. For, either Satan makes evil choices, or obeys God to do evil.

3,381 posted on 08/20/2007 8:35:23 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: suzyjaruki

I do not intend to be cruel

I do stand 198 cm, though. Is that Goliathing enough?


3,382 posted on 08/20/2007 8:35:35 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: irishtenor
If that were the case, how do you account for all of those who received the HS before/without baptism

What happened before His Great Commission is irrelevant. It's God' prerogative if such were the case. But, Christians are obliged to baptize. Psuedo-Christians can do whatever they like.

3,383 posted on 08/20/2007 8:40:22 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: hosepipe

It may be unpopular, yet it still is.

But preaching the Word of God falsely, that is surely going to be rewarded in the everlasting lake of fire.


3,384 posted on 08/20/2007 8:41:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Was Paul “forced?”

By his own account—yes.

3,385 posted on 08/20/2007 8:41:28 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
[.. They received all the scriptures through the Church (Gospel readings, Epistle readings, OT readings), along with "commentaries" (homilies). ..]

Its called the DARK AGES.. When the roman catholic church locked scripture up in Latin in the Vulgate.. Since only mostly RC priests could read Latin the book was effectively HIDDEN.. locked up.. HIJACKED.. This SIN is yet to be payed for.. This trial hasn't started yet.. Still there are engrams of this nasty attitude in the roman catholic church.. It is still present to this day.. Noticed by comments occasionally on threads like THIS...

3,386 posted on 08/20/2007 8:43:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50

Pseudo Christians?

Interesting appellation. God, of course, will call to Him who He wills. But to presume upon that, a la Calvin, now that is a strange, yet compelling theology for those who would short cut their journey to Heaven.


3,387 posted on 08/20/2007 8:44:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: kosta50

Acts 2 happened AFTER Jesus gave the Great Commission, yet they were filled with the Holy Spirit before any of them were baptized. At least before any of them were reported to be baptized. There were many other records of people accepting Jesus, being filled with the HS and then being baptized. All I am saying is that baptism is NOT necessary for salvation. (Boy, is THAT going to cause dissention ) :>)


3,388 posted on 08/20/2007 8:44:49 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That’s how much He loves us and how good He is to us to always provide the way and the means.


3,389 posted on 08/20/2007 8:46:27 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: hosepipe

The only universal language at that point was Latin.

And since each Bible was only copied out at the labour of thousands of hours of priestly labour, what would you have them do? It wasn’t that the printing press was able to turn out approximately one per second, you know?

Plus, the vast majority of the populace was illiterate. You know, unable to read. Not unlike some modern populations. What would you have the Church to do? It couldn’t afford the resources to accurately translate the Bible into the vernacular and still maintain its production of non Gutenberg Bibles.


3,390 posted on 08/20/2007 8:49:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: blue-duncan
The church has never been the standard

Then it could not have produced the standard Christian Canon. Try to be consistent.

3,392 posted on 08/20/2007 8:52:25 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: irishtenor
Hence the need for the Reformation

Why, so that everyone can make their own little private theology?

3,393 posted on 08/20/2007 8:53:36 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
I understand that when one considers ones self to be more important than God, that one doesn’t actually kneel, or bow, or genuflect, or actually do any thing that actually says that one is a creature of God

Arrogance and pride. But they will wave at Him with hands up in the air: "Yooohooo, God, I'm here...can you seem me?"

3,394 posted on 08/20/2007 8:58:14 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MHGinTN

Your point being what?... German grammar?..


3,395 posted on 08/20/2007 8:58:38 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: kosta50

Consistency is the last resort of the foolish. Or so I have been told. By the foolish, I’m sure.

The one thing that the Protestants all circle around like flies to a lamp is that the Catholic Church has imperiously stated what Sacred Scripture is. They have taken that, subtracted an arbitrary amound, and all bow (figurately only - that’s very important - one cannot actually kneel before God because it’s so... Catholic) before it, yet deny that the Catholics are infested with the Holy Spirit, yet deny that the Word of God is in error, yet deny that the Catholic Church is the Church of God, yet deny....

Boy, it gets rather involved. I guess that every individual with a force of personality gets to be his own pope. And this is what Christ intended? Oy vey.


3,396 posted on 08/20/2007 9:00:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: irishtenor; MarkBsnr
You DARE to say that to a CHILD OF GOD? You have no idea what you are saying and to whom you are saying it to.

LOL!!! A winner! LOL!!! LOL!!!

3,397 posted on 08/20/2007 9:03:19 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

See what happens when I try to defend you :>)


3,398 posted on 08/20/2007 9:05:15 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: irishtenor; D-fendr
The church is only the means to receive, listen, learn, worship, and honor him. The church is run by fallible men, who are not perfect

If that's so, how did the Church put together what you read and worship as Bible? or did the Bible just fall from the sky, like manna?

3,399 posted on 08/20/2007 9:05:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

“Then it could not have produced the standard Christian Canon.:

It didn’t. It affirmed what the churches had been using all along and it wasn’t “The Church”. It was many churches who sent representatives to the council to affirm the canon. The standard was the scriptures, not the “Church”.


3,400 posted on 08/20/2007 9:05:48 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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