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I’m concerned with the reality of the new creation and its impact on each of us, male and female in Christ. The “first shall be last,” and we are to submit ourselves by purposeful decision one to another, to the glory of God in Christ, not to our own or any person’s glory. Paul does go on to tell us to “judge for yourselves, and says in 1 Cor. 11 that now man is born of woman, and all are of God.

There was something in the prior letters between Paul and the Corinthians that we don’t know and that we don’t understand - as well as the cultural aspect of the local proper behavior that is reflected in his citation of the witnesses of Christ’s resurrection, in Chapter 15. We know that Mary Magdalene and the other women witnessed the empty tomb and Mary was the first to see the risen Christ, but Paul never mentions them and doesn’t note that the 11 didn’t believe the women. This doesn’t make Paul’s story false or even incomplete. It was appropriate to his audience.

I was born in the late ‘50’s in North Texas. Our churches had no tradition of long hair or head coverings. We would have considered it disruptive for a woman to wear a veil and hats were considered vanities. The issue was modesty and being humble - and, I suspect, a tincture of the results of poverty and a good dash of making sure that they did not look at all like the Catholics. While I don’t believe the latter was a good reason and have long believe we threw out too much good in this effort, there wasn’t any sort of feminism involved, no rebellion.

We would have considered it disruptive for a woman to wear a veil and hats were considered vanities. The issue was modesty and being humble - and, I suspect, a tincture of the results of poverty and a good dash of making sure that they did not look at all like the Catholics

What is disruptive or vain about these Eastern Orthodox women? Nothing.

People coming dressed in provocative clothing to church, as I have seen in some Protestant churches, is disruptive. Also people dressed like they are going to the beach is diruptive. Vanity is disruptive, and can be extended to makeup for women and hair dies as well. Is overdressing for church not vain and disruptive?

You theory that something has been going on between St. Paul and the Corinthians is as extra-biblical as it gets. You are now using the same arguments you argue against.

People who believe that Jonah lived in an acid-filled stomach deptived of oxygen and subject to smooth muscle crushing contractions for three days and somehow lived -- because it's in the Bible and God said so -- all of a sudden just "can't understand" the completely unumbiguos commandment of an Apostle in the New Testament as something coming from God that (short-haired) women should be covered in hurch.