Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: kosta50; kawaii

You see, this explanation requires extra-Biblical knowledge as to what Paul “had before his mind.”

Brothers, Jesus did not die so that women could remain subservient or inferior to men any more than He died so that kings could rule or slaves could remain faithful in their service to their masters.

He is my covering.

This is exactly the type of rationale, the hard-hearted holding to tradition of men, that makes it so difficult to discuss our belief with the feminists who hate the Lord, the atheists who deny Him, the practitioners of sexual sin who shame us all, and to counter the horrors of slavery in parts of the world and the female circumcision, veiling and honor killings of the Muslims.

Our Lord has reconciled us to Himself, His Spirit dwells next to ours. The Savior told us to call no man “Master” or “Father.” In Him, we are “no longer male or female, Jew or Greek” and we are all told to subject our selves one to another.


161 posted on 07/21/2007 2:09:25 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 140 | View Replies ]


To: hocndoc
You see, this explanation requires extra-Biblical knowledge as to what Paul “had before his mind”

No, he is actually quite clear in the bible: women should be covered when praying. He leaves no doubt who is who in this world (1 Cor 11:3)

But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

No extra-Biblical knowledge required here.

Brothers, Jesus did not die so that women could remain subservient or inferior to men any more than He died so that kings could rule or slaves could remain faithful in their service to their masters

Actually, Paul thinks otherwise (1 Cor 11:7)

For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man

 He is my covering.

That's not what the Bible says.

So, do we have a conflict here between what you say Christ did and what Paul teaches?

Look, if you are seeking a gender-neutral faith, good luck. But you can't make Christianity something it never was gender-neutral.

Either the Bible is a God-inspired revelation or it is a man-made delusion. There is no middle. It is not mutable. It's not subject to fads and cultural clichés.

165 posted on 07/21/2007 5:54:15 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies ]

To: hocndoc

actually making scripture subjective and writing parts off of it as ‘cultural’ is the same thing the gnostics did.

fact is protestants only like scripture which they choose off the bible buffet and they circumvent the rest in ways that would make liberal catholics heads spin.


216 posted on 07/22/2007 5:16:08 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies ]

To: hocndoc
You see, this explanation requires extra-Biblical knowledge as to what Paul “had before his mind.”

Yeah the same way gnostics claimed to have 'secret knowledge'.

I'm going to go on the very public knowledge from and entity that's existed since that time and who spoke greek and didn't rely on a translation from greek to latin to english and who have written and show of women covering their hair when praying since day one.
218 posted on 07/22/2007 5:32:53 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson