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To: adiaireton8; xzins; wmfights
There is no pretending. The Catholic Church wants full, visible unity. It has never said otherwise. Read JPII's (1995) encyclical Ut Unum Sint.

Who are you kidding??? Neither JPII nor Pope Benny could even bring themselves around far enough to recognize non-Catholic Churches as even worthy enough to be referred to by them as "Churches". They are mere "Communities" in their eyes and in their bulls. According to them, only Catholics go to "Church" on Sunday. Everyone else goes to "Communities" on Sunday.

126 posted on 07/21/2007 8:14:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; adiaireton8; xzins
Neither JPII nor Pope Benny could even bring themselves around far enough to recognize non-Catholic Churches as even worthy enough to be referred to by them as "Churches".

I don't see how they can admit that these other groups are Christian churches. They have built themselves around this idea of monopoly. They make all kinds of claims that support their monopoly the theory of apostolic succession, (really should be called historic lineage)and true presence in the Lord's Supper. They have created a works system that they believe can only be perfected through them. If they were to admit the error of their claimed monopoly all these peculiarities of their church would fall and they would have no hold on their congregants.

127 posted on 07/21/2007 8:27:55 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: Uncle Chip
Neither JPII nor Pope Benny could even bring themselves around far enough to recognize non-Catholic Churches as even worthy enough to be referred to by them as "Churches".

If you are talking about Protestant denominations, the Catholic Church has never claimed that they are Churches. That is because they are not Churches, for the reason I explained above. But if you are talking about the Orthodox Churches, the Holy See considers them to be actual [particular] Churches.

They are mere "Communities" in their eyes and in their bulls.

Yes, if you are talking about Protestants, and not Orthodox.

According to them, only Catholics go to "Church" on Sunday. Everyone else goes to "Communities" on Sunday.

True, if you are talking about Protestants; false, if you are talking about Orthodox.

-A8

135 posted on 07/21/2007 8:55:16 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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