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To: topcat54
I'm sure it will come up on this thread, so consider this a preemptive strike....

The most-often posted numbers of "Protestant" abuse are two Catholic-run websites. They provide a deeply biased, an apples vs oranges comparison using all manner of non-Catholic groups, as opposed to the Catholic church's own numbers as provided by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. If one isolates the cases actually committed by clergy out of the above "Protestant" articles, and then compares like-for-like with the numbers provided in the U.S. Catholic Bishops' "John Jay" study, it can be demonstrated that there are approximately four times as many Catholic priests and clergy who are sexually abusive, than the number of "Protestant" pastors guilty of the same. And if you isolate out the Reformed Protestant denominations from those other articles, the number of "Protestant" abuse cases statistically drops off the chart by comparison.

I'm not saying that either set of statistics are inaccurate or deliberately falsified. I'm just saying that the Catholic-provided numbers of "Protestant" cases, if accepted at face value and if I've understood them properly, paint a far worse picture on the Catholic side than most Catholics are probably aware of.

4 posted on 07/18/2007 2:20:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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To: Alex Murphy

I just made some popcorn and I’m going to sit in the corner and watch you be ripped apart. Sorry. On another thread, I made a comment about apologizing for all the murders condoned by the church and only narrowly escaped with my life.


5 posted on 07/18/2007 2:25:43 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Ratzaz! There. I do give one about something.)
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To: Alex Murphy
The most-often posted numbers of "Protestant" abuse are two Catholic-run websites.

The post you linked to did not cite two "Catholic-run websites". One citation was to an article from the Christian Science Monitor, which is not remotely Catholic.

approximately four times as many Catholic priests and clergy who are sexually abusive, than the number of "Protestant" pastors guilty of the same

The relevant statistic would be the percentage, not the raw number.

Phillip Jenkins is not a "Catholic-run website"; he's a professor of comparative religion at Penn State. His book concluded that the percentage of abusers was essentially the same in every denomination.

6 posted on 07/18/2007 2:40:35 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Alex Murphy
You need to provide verifiable proof that either one of those sites that I frequently hyperlink are "Catholic-run". Is Newsmax also a "Catholic-run" site which has exposed the sexual abuse cases that take place in public schools, which greatly outnumber the number of cases involving criminals masquerading as Catholic Priests? Incidentally, people like you and the "let them marry" cabal around here never mention those crimes.

if I've understood them properly

Therein lies the problem. You don't understand.

10 posted on 07/18/2007 4:16:43 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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