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Phony Mahony & the Homosexual Priest Cover-Up
American Vision ^ | 7/17/2007 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 07/18/2007 1:48:09 PM PDT by topcat54

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To: Petronski
You've demonstrated no slander, except those you offer against the Catholic Church.

Thank you for that statement, confirming that I have not slandered nor made any personally derogatory remarks about any FReeper.

I wish I could say the same about you.

141 posted on 07/19/2007 2:43:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You’ve misunderstood my use of the language, so let me be remedial:

“You have not demonstrated that anyone has slandered you.”

You haven’t.


142 posted on 07/19/2007 2:45:18 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Do you claim that Jesuits take THAT oath? The one that was pulled, that can’t be posted?


143 posted on 07/19/2007 2:46:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Have you run away?


144 posted on 07/19/2007 2:51:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator
Do you claim that Jesuits take THAT oath? The one that was pulled, that can't be posted?

Nothing was "pulled," Petronski.

And since we've been told not to discuss this, why do you keep discussing it?

145 posted on 07/19/2007 2:53:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I missed the place where we were told not to discuss it. Do you have a link?


146 posted on 07/19/2007 2:54:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: conservonator
) your intentional misreading of the Catechism regarding Muslims

No, the catchesim very clearly states they worship the same God as Christians but they don't.

What I would like to know is when a position can't be refuted (except in the defenders mind), why does it always turn into personal attacks? And why would someone want to follow that god that drives that? Why do you seem to always want to make it personal?

147 posted on 07/19/2007 3:03:49 PM PDT by lupie
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Mahoney is the RCC.

That's not true. Not even rhetorically.

148 posted on 07/19/2007 3:04:23 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

ping to 147


149 posted on 07/19/2007 3:09:34 PM PDT by lupie
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
...to the RCC's idolatrous belief that a priest is "another Christ" and therefore "entitled."

Entitled to what? What claim are you making now? Entitled to what?

150 posted on 07/19/2007 3:11:20 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
LOL.

interesting responce...

1) The RCC's embrace of the Muslims is well-documented in both the RCC catechism and in JPII's loving lips smooching the Koran.

Interesting again, however it has little relation to the position you took vis the catechism in regard to the salvation of Muslims. Nice try, but a seeing and a miss!

2) We were asked not to discuss the Jesuit Oath yet you keep bringing it up. You must be awfully familiar with it. Do you deny Jesuits take an oath?

OK, this is just sad, the RM asked that the oath not be posted, there was no prohibition on discussing the fraudulent product of a disturbed mind. Strike two.

3) "Fox's Book of Martyrs" is a Christian classic. It's read by Presbyterians, Methodists, Anglicans, Lutherans, Congregationalists, etc.

And the Al Franken's books are read by men, women, Socialists, environmentalists etc, doesn't make the information in the books any less defective now does it? That's three, grab some wood.

Granted, the RCC is made uncomfortable by a retelling of the Vatican's shameful, blood-soaked history. But that's not my problem. It's yours. Thank God.

Truth is nothing to fear, there have been some horrible popes, priests, bishops, laity, sisters, monks, friars and brothers, the Church is full of murderers, rapists, molesters, lier's, cheats and all manner of sinner, some of whom have done terrible things in the name of the Church and in the name of God, to their ruin I wold think. Thank God for the Church it's where we sinners belong, the hospital for sinners. I know the history of the Church, warts and all, and am able to differentiate between the all to human administration and the Divine treasure.

151 posted on 07/19/2007 3:14:37 PM PDT by conservonator (quest)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Keep posting Doc, yer doing just fine! If anyone wonders what the fruits of Calvinism are, they need look no further.


152 posted on 07/19/2007 3:17:49 PM PDT by conservonator (quest)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Dear BlessedBeGod,

“But his retirement is mandatory on his 80th birthday, whether the Pope likes it or not.”

Actually, at 80, he’s just no longer eligible to vote in a papal conclave.

The pope still doesn’t have to accept his resignation.


sitetest

153 posted on 07/19/2007 3:18:28 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And since we've been told not to discuss this, why do you keep discussing it?

I gotta tell you, I've scoured this thread and found no such prohibition. Why won't you provide a link?

154 posted on 07/19/2007 3:18:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
...it may be because you find this thread so distasteful that you want it pulled.

Let me state this as emphatically as possible: I want this thread to remain. I do not want it to be pulled.

I want it to stand as yet another monument to your horrible behavior.

155 posted on 07/19/2007 3:20:47 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
Mahoney is the RCC.

That's not true. Not even rhetorically.

Technically, Petronski may be right. The phrase goes "where the bishop is, there is the Church." Mahony is a Cardinal, and depending on the function performed, Cardinals can be bishops, too.

So depending on Mahony's actual job description, technically, Dr E may be righter. And since His Eminence Roger Cardinal Mahony is listed among the "U.S. Bishops" on the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops member page, I think the point goes to Dr. E.

156 posted on 07/19/2007 3:20:57 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (As heard on the Amish Radio Network! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1675029/posts)
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To: Alex Murphy
I think the point goes to Dr. E.

Of course you do. But you're wrong. The Roman Catholic Church is not any one man.

157 posted on 07/19/2007 3:22:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: lupie; Dr. Eckleburg
If you remember, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, the original discussion revolved around the "Dr.'s" misrepresentation of a section in the catechism. Remember?

I don't see how pointing out obvious and demonstrable pathology that is invested in not a small number of a particular posters posts in "making it personal".

158 posted on 07/19/2007 3:29:32 PM PDT by conservonator (quest)
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To: Petronski; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
But as long as the one man is still in place by upper "management", then he represents the organization. By his still being there, those in authority to revoke his position and association with them give their tacit approval. That is just the way it is.

If your dishwasher has a problem and Sears sends a repairman to fix it and during the service call he creates a leak under the sink, who do you hold responsible. The repairman or Sears? If they refuse to repair it, or send out the same guy to fix your stove, who do you blame? Who is the repairman representing? What if you find out that he breaks more things than he fixes but Sears won't let him go? Who do you blame? Why? (Because he represents Sears) Would you buy another maintenance agreement from them?

What about a cab company that has a driver they employ that does not have a clue on how to get around your city and has a record of going many miles out of the way, charging the customer, yet the company does nothing about it?

Or what about a line worker at a car manufacturing plant on model X car who deliberatly does not fully tighten down the gas line which ends up causing many model X cars to catch on fire, which scars many people for life? When the company realizes this, they do not fire the worker, his manager just simply move him over to Model Y car. The same things happens and he is moved now to work on the gas line on Model Z car. Then, it happens again and they put him in a office somewhere. Upper management finds out what the mid manager did which he knew caused more people lifelong scarring. Does the line worker represent the car company? Does the manager who keeps moving him?

159 posted on 07/19/2007 3:43:43 PM PDT by lupie
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To: conservonator
I don't see how...

I did not expect that you would.

160 posted on 07/19/2007 3:46:27 PM PDT by lupie
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