Posted on 07/18/2007 9:34:39 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
LOL! I’m sure Thuthan hates the Boy Scouts, too.
The weird thing about the abuse scandal is that, while the scandal broke in what? 2002, most of the actual abuse took place in the 60s and 70s, still high but going down in the 80s. Cardinal Law takes the brunt of the blame in Boston, though Medeiros was in during the worst of it. (I think he just couldn't cope with it; I understand he appealed to Rome for help in getting homosexuals out of the seminaries.) Law actually had brought the situation under control -- granted, too slowly, but there were no reported cases in Boston for a couple of years before the AG's report came out.
I think Gerald at the blog “Cafeteria is Closed” has some interesting data on the sexual abuse crisis, which is consistent with what was stated by earler posters that much of the abuse took place during the 1960 and 1970s when the “Spirit of Vatican II” was in its zenith.
However, ever so slowly Christ is getting his Church to sail in an “orthodox manner” as evidenced by the Papacy of JPII and now Benedict XVI. I for one am confident that the springtime that Pope JPII talked about will come about, maybe not in my life time, but it will, as it always has.
Pax Domine
There is no connection between allowing a more generous use of the Tridentine Mass and a parish or diocesan policy regarding clergy sexual abuse. They just aren’t connected. Of course when Ms Brooks Thistlewhatever uses words like “reactionary” or “circling the wagons” or “consolidating its power in the heirarchy” she might fool some into thinking that, well, this must be related to covering up sex abuse. The fact remains that there just isn’t a connection. Maybe next time she should actually try to formulate a coherent argument before bashing a Church about which she knows nothing.
You’re right, what a stretch, a connection between lifting the indult and abuse cover-ups? That’s so contrived, so irrational, and so inflammatory, apparently only she and Cardinal Mahony would have the gall to suggest it. I wonder if she got the idea from his inane and inaccurate comments yesterday?
Ha. How bogus. The facts aren’t even right. The tridentine mass existed long before the Catholic reformation.
If anything this is a validation that Catholics stand for what they’ve always stood for, including a strong moral fiber. No more wishy washy feel good protestant-lite church ;-)
Dog bites man,. Nothing to see here. Thanks for the ping, Salvation, but this is a non-story. NEWS would be something like "The Episcopal Church thinks the Pope is right". This is not news. It's business as usual
The real Catholic Religion is back. The Latin Mass is all tan, rested, and ready to take the world by storm. I for one am thrilled beyond belief.
The best of my life was when Cardinal Ratzinger was elected Pope. The second best day was when he instituted the LATIN MASS!!
The Latin Mass is not about Latin but about reverence, putting God at the center of worship (not “celebrating ourselves) and about holiness.
Pedophilia started when psychologists decided Sex and morality and family had nothing to do with each other, and the if we let it all hang out sexually we would be more mature.
A lot of the predictions of what would happen when we made sex “fun” and removed it’s link with responsibility and children are in Humana Vitae, but I bet Thistelwaite never read it.
This writer does not know her history. The Enlightenment began in the seventeenth century. The Council of Trent was held in the middle of the sixteenth century. Therefore, it could not have been a “reaction” to the Enlightenment.
Moreover, the writer is suffering from the same delusions that seem to plague many others—namely that the Second Vatican Council marked a rupture in Church history and that the whole of Church history that preceded the Council was some kind of “dark age.” Finally, she clings to the erroneous belief that the sex abuse scandal was “caused” by the Church’s hierarchy and that only by eliminating the hierarchy can we “protect” children from abuse. What hogwash! This just proves my contention that many people are using the clerical sex abuse scandal as an excuse to advance a modernist agenda in the Church, to remake the Church into a lay-run institution. Well, you can post all the Church-bashing articles that you want, but the Church will never adopt the kind of false reforms that you and so many others want it to.
Agree with you. Don’t know anything about the OP. But I do like to be aware of some of anti-Catholic rhetoric that is out there.
This may be one of the great non sequiturs ever committed to print since the death of Johannes Gutenberg. Yikes!
I think such sexual predators should be publically mutilated, along with their bishop enablers. I won't cast the first scalpel since I have a blemish or two on my record. Nevertheless, there isn't penance available in this vale of tears for such human debris.
I would welcome the return of the Latin Mass. Now if they would just move the Saturday effort at my parish from 5:00 PM to 4:30 PM and change it to Latin, I may offer to become a server once again, although I would need to brush up on my responses. Then, again, so might the celebrant.
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