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To: Grig
"I can’t seem to find any verse in the Bible at all saying that Ham was black"

You can't see the nose on your own face without a mirror.

"Ham," "chamam", means "black," or "to be black." Same with his first son Cush. (Land of Cush = Ethiopia.)

"nothing in the verse is mutually exclusive"

Since when did God ever appoint a sign for a curse which existed elsewhere?

You want a real sign? Ask any mother about the pain of childbirth.

209 posted on 07/16/2007 3:09:14 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

“”I can’t seem to find any verse in the Bible at all saying that Ham was black”

You can’t see the nose on your own face without a mirror. “

There is no verse saying Ham was black, there is no verse you can post to say ‘See, I was right’ so you choose to throw insults around, too scared to admit that what you claimed can not be established from the Bible. How immature.

“”Ham,” “chamam”, means “black,” or “to be black.” “

From Strongs, the word translated as Ham from Gen 5:32 is Cham (khawm) and the definition given is :”the same as ‘cham’ (2525); hot (from the tropical habitat); Cham, a son of Noah; also (as a patronymic) his descendants or their country:—Ham.”

Nothing there about black at all, and people’s names aren’t always an indication about their appearance. My brother Dale is more like a mountain.

“Since when did God ever appoint a sign for a curse which existed elsewhere?”

God can curse people as he sees fit, when he sees fit. God is not bound by rules you have invented and which are not stated in scripture.

If your claim was valid, you should have been able to post a passage from the Bible and one from the BoM teaching mutually exclusive doctrines. You haven’t, and you can’t.


232 posted on 07/16/2007 6:54:00 PM PDT by Grig
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