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To: Terabitten; topcat54; Alex Murphy
I assume Topcat posted this thread in response to Benedict's recent declaration that we Protestants are in grave error...

Vatican reiterates hardline on primacy of Catholic Church

Or this version from Forbes/AP of the same story posted by Alex Murphy...

POPE: OTHER CHRISTIANS NOT TRUE CHURCHES

4 posted on 07/10/2007 8:31:52 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I assume Topcat posted this thread in response to Benedict's recent declaration that we Protestants are in grave error

Yes, you Protestants are in grave error.

This is an utterly shocking and absolutely unprecedented thing for the Pope to say, in view of the fact that you Protestants repeatedly and vigorously denounce Catholics for their grave errors in matters of justification, Mariology, the use of images, the canon of Scripture, church governance, the use of tradition as a source of divine revelation, the significance of the sacraments ...

</sarcasm>

8 posted on 07/10/2007 9:01:43 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I assume Topcat posted this thread in response to Benedict's recent declaration that we Protestants are in grave error...

Yeah, I saw that. Wasted time on the Pope's part, IMHO. I can't imagine any situation in which Rome would espouse any *other* position than their own primacy, so why even bother?

16 posted on 07/10/2007 9:30:48 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: drstevej; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-
Mt 26:28 “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mr 14:24 And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
Lu 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
1Co 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
2Co 3:6 ¶ who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Heb 8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
Heb 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 9:15 ¶ And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
(NKJV)

THERE IS NO MORE LEVITICAL COVENANT AND LIKE PAUL TO PETER I AM TIRED OF THE NEED TO MIX AND MATCH THE COVENANTS.

I HAVE BEGGED CATHOLIC BRETHEREN TO PRAY FOR REFORMED BRETHREN ON PRAYER THREADS WITH NO RESPONSE.

I HAVE BY GOD’S GRACE BEEN ON BOTH SODES OF THE CAMP.

GODBLESS CHRISTIAN UNITY ON THIS FORUM.

MY 78 YR. OLD MOTHER WILL BE HERE THIS WEEKEND,THOUGH STILL ROMAN CATHOLIC I BELIEVE SHE IS SAVED.

THE DIVISION HERE IS NOT CHRIST-LIKE!


19 posted on 07/10/2007 9:54:12 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"If many Protestants today are not persuaded that the pope is the Antichrist, what should we say of him?" He is the topmost of the Bishops in service to The Church, so he is due our respect and obedience, to some extent if you are a Catholic. If you are a Protestant like me, the Pope is titled as 'Holy Father' and he deserves to be called by his Catholic title.

As to whether Peter and therefore every Pope since has some special power not vested anywhere else on Earth, I am reminded of the Rock which Moses struck to bring forth water for life of the people. Christ is the Rock, not Peter, but object of Peter's profession is the rock upon which The Holy Spirit is given to the believer. Arguing with Catholics over this 'doctrine' is a thoroughly covered territory that needs no further survey. There is no 'victory' to be won or defeat to be borne in the exercise.

57 posted on 07/10/2007 11:48:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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