Posted on 07/10/2007 8:10:26 AM PDT by topcat54
GRPL Friends
Let's spend less time polishing our armor and fighting each other. There's a war on, and Catholic Christians are our allies, not our enemies.
Frankly, I'm surprised that Reformed protestants even care. God can choose to elect anyone He chooses - even the Pope.
Or this version from Forbes/AP of the same story posted by Alex Murphy...
I just don’t get why the Protestant FReepers who think that they are absolutely right in their faith, would be offended when Catholics think the same. I don’t want any leader of any denomination to let his faith in what he believes to be watered down.
I have to agree with the FReepers stating that we have a bigger enemy than each other. The Evil One is smiling at every one of these threads.
I hope you both are posting the same kind of rebukes in the Catholic threads whenever they crow about the newest convert from Protestantism.
Nonsense. All popes are blasphemous. No man sent by God would call himself “Holy Father” and “Vicar of Christ” being fawned and adorned as if he himseld is special. And then they proclaim that they are sucessors of St. Peter.
From Acts-
25 And when it came to pass that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26 But Peter raised him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
Luther and the his fellow reformers were right the first time.
Yes, you Protestants are in grave error.
This is an utterly shocking and absolutely unprecedented thing for the Pope to say, in view of the fact that you Protestants repeatedly and vigorously denounce Catholics for their grave errors in matters of justification, Mariology, the use of images, the canon of Scripture, church governance, the use of tradition as a source of divine revelation, the significance of the sacraments ...
</sarcasm>
I don't know of any who are myself. But reverse the nouns...
"I just don’t get why the Catholic FReepers who think that they are absolutely right in their faith, would be offended when Protestants think the same."...and I can think of a dozen Catholic FReepers (some now banned) who this describes perfectly.
Bottom line bump
I'd say it was more indicative of honoring the passing of a great man who allied himself with the United States in its battle against Communism.
C'mon out of your cloister. I'm tired of arguing with fellow Christians about points that are, in the end, irrelevant. God and God alone chooses the elect. The elect, I'm sure, includes people with whose beliefs I disagree. So? It's God's right to be gracious to whom he will be gracious.
Fine, so the Pope is blasphemous...so are you and I. I am, as Paul said, "chief among sinners."
It's time for everyone to have a heaping helping of humilty and remember that we are ALL sinners that God didn't have to save if He didn't want to. Arguments about how, exactly, that salvation occurs are interesting, but hardly worth sinning over. I sin enough on my own -- I don't need extra help.
I don't post rebukes in the Catholic threads because I'm not a Catholic. Any rebuke I posted would be seen mainly as sectarian discontent, not as meaningful discourse between Christian brothers.
I do, however, post rebukes when either side gets into name-calling and the like. There's no room for that at Christ's table.
LOL, Campion... I don’t agree with you on a lot of theological issues, but you’ve got a great sense of humor. Can’t wait to meet you one day, when we all get together.
Yeah, I saw that. Wasted time on the Pope's part, IMHO. I can't imagine any situation in which Rome would espouse any *other* position than their own primacy, so why even bother?
Honestly, I have nothing against Protestants.
I married one.
So who exactly should give up their doctrines?
There are certain things that make Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, etc. I’m not asking anyone to give up their beliefs. If the leader of any other denomination said that my Catholic beliefs were wrong, would I be shocked. I don’t think so.
Sometimes it might be a good time to agree to disagree. As long as the Pope is not calling to cut off your head, why bother. You believe he is just some guy with a funny hat.
Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-
Mt 26:28 “For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mr 14:24 And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
Lu 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
1Co 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
2Co 3:6 ¶ who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Heb 8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
Heb 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 9:15 ¶ And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
(NKJV)
THERE IS NO MORE LEVITICAL COVENANT AND LIKE PAUL TO PETER I AM TIRED OF THE NEED TO MIX AND MATCH THE COVENANTS.
I HAVE BEGGED CATHOLIC BRETHEREN TO PRAY FOR REFORMED BRETHREN ON PRAYER THREADS WITH NO RESPONSE.
I HAVE BY GOD’S GRACE BEEN ON BOTH SODES OF THE CAMP.
GODBLESS CHRISTIAN UNITY ON THIS FORUM.
MY 78 YR. OLD MOTHER WILL BE HERE THIS WEEKEND,THOUGH STILL ROMAN CATHOLIC I BELIEVE SHE IS SAVED.
THE DIVISION HERE IS NOT CHRIST-LIKE!
“I just don’t get why the Protestant FReepers who think that they are absolutely right in their faith, would be offended when Catholics think the same.”
too true! LOL!!
If the pope DIDN’T think this - he wouldn’t be the pope now would he?
Once again - people find themselves shocked...SHOCKED! That the pope is catholic!
Meanwhile protestant leaders continue to claim catholics are in error, some going so far as to describing our pope as the antichrist.
But let’s pay that no nevermind.
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