[DouglasKC]

That is true, there are also the fallen angels but he is the only one named. Many will go into perdition and Judas could well be one of those but are there more than one "named" as the son of perdition?

Okay, where do you see that Satan is going to "perdition"?

You have hit upon the sticking point in the debate. I agree about the repentance of Judas and only our Father knows how much weight it will carry.
So, even though Judas did the bidding of Satan could he be considered THE son of perdition?

You seem to be hung up on the word "perdition" as if it's a place or a person when it's only an archaic word that means "destruction" or "ruin" or "loss".

I see that saying "son of perdition" is kind of like saying he's a "son of a bitch." It's a figurative way to say what his character is like. He's about nothing but destruction and waste, he's a "son of destruction." Like a "son of a bitch" isn't really the son of a bitch but acts like a dog, a son of destruction's character is summed up in that their character is wanting to destroy.

Biblically the term seems reserved for those who do Satan's bidding because Satan is a destroyer. Therefore there can be more than one "son of perdition".

I just continue to hold on to him being named THE son of perdition, not A son of perditon or SONS of perdition.

All I can suggest is that you continue to study and use all the resources you can. Often when starting off studying people will want to hold on to their own ideas instead of believing what scripture actually says.

[Ping-Pong]

Okay, where do you see that Satan is going to "perdition"?

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

You seem to be hung up on the word "perdition" as if it's a place or a person when it's only an archaic word that means "destruction" or "ruin" or "loss".

I see that saying "son of perdition" is kind of like saying he's a "son of a bitch." It's a figurative way to say what his character is like. He's about nothing but destruction and waste, he's a "son of destruction." Like a "son of a bitch" isn't really the son of a bitch but acts like a dog, a son of destruction's character is summed up in that their character is wanting to destroy.

I am hung up on the word Douglas. To me, it is like a name, a title....The Son of Perdition, as in The President of Iran. (I wonder what brought that to mind?)

All I can suggest is that you continue to study and use all the resources you can. Often when starting off studying people will want to hold on to their own ideas instead of believing what scripture actually says.

That is true...and very true about me. I'll keep studying and try to do so with a more open mind but it sure doesn't come easy.

........Ping