[See, that is your assumption.]
And the other is yours.
And we are coming from two different escatological paradigms based on different readings of the Bible.
You have been representing your theory that the northern tribes returned and merged with Judah in Palestine as the default.
See, that is why I get exasperated with you.
You keep repeating a straw man argument.
You have constructed a logical construction in your mind based on that assumption and cannot grasp the fact that no one is saying that the Northern tribes returned and merged with Palestine, by default or otherwise.
Those people who were deported could have stayed right where they were, and those who were left in the Land after the deportation (2Chron.34:6) did as well.
Moreover, individuals came back with the return of the Southern Kingdom deportee's as well.
So, there is no need for those Northern Tribes who were deported to have gone anywhere and quite likely, most just stayed where they were and became assimilated into the culture as did many from the Southern tribes who were deported.
Where is the ancient writing recording that event that would make the theory the default?
No need to record an event that didn't need to happen.
That is a false assumption on your part, based on another false assumption that a large number of Israelites were needed to complete Hosea 1, in the present, which is in fact, a future Millennial prophecy.
So, you start with two false assumptions, that large numbers of Israelites have to exist now, and that the 10 tribes had to go somewhere if that 1st assumption is going to be true.
Neither view is correct.
But you have constructed a logical view that is based on it and cannot deal with anything that contradicts those assumptions, so you keep repeating them as if they are facts, which they are not.
Assyria was defeated in 612 BC. Judah was captured in 590 BC. Cyrus released Judah in 540 BC and they returned to Palestine. At no time had any northern tribes returned to the land of their fathers.
So?
There were enough left in the land to represent all of those tribes 6 centuries later when Christ came.
It is only your false assumption that those deported tribes had to stay intact that keeps you going in logical circles, ignoring alternative views.
You need records if you insist on a default theory.
Only if one accepts the 'default' theory.
No one has ever said that the 10 tribes went back as did the Southern tribes, only that people from all 12 tribes were in the Land, and that they have merged to become known today as a single people-Jews.
That is based what is actually known historically and Biblically, not on assumptions.
I would be excited if the theory I'm exploring were true. We would be living in a world of brothers against our obvious enemies (the "other" Semites). And, I would have no problem if the Jews were all that were left.
Well, your theory is wrong, Americans are not Israelites.
Moreover, any defense of the Jew is going to from a right understanding of the Jew and his relationship to God's Plan, and not from any blood connection.
Those people who were deported could have stayed right where they were, and those who were left in the Land after the deportation (2Chron.34:6) did as well. 2 Kings 17:6 In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.
Have looked on a map for Medes?
See where it is? See the Black Sea above it?
Notice how far from the northern kingdom lands the Israelites were placed? You also might note where Turkey is.
I guess you're saying that "deportees" also apply to Judah when it was taken by the Babylonians.
No need to record an event that didn't need to happen.
There is now, evidently.
Good try though.
That is a false assumption on your part, based on another false assumption that a large number of Israelites were needed to complete Hosea 1, in the present, which is in fact, a future Millennial prophecy.
Nonsense.
But you have constructed a logical view that is based on it and cannot deal with anything that contradicts those assumptions, so you keep repeating them as if they are facts, which they are not.
Right back attcha.
No one has ever said that the 10 tribes went back as did the Southern tribes, only that people from all 12 tribes were in the Land, and that they have merged to become known today as a single people-Jews.
You've changed your story again.
You have no proof of your assumption. I am completely sure there were some of the northern tribes mixed in with the southern. I can't see how this seems important to you.
A whole lot of the northern tribes are missing. You would have to presume them all dead. Where did you get this assumption?
Do you have any evidence of that at all?
Look at the map again.
Well, your theory is wrong, Americans are not Israelites.
That's not my theory. My theory is that the entire globe is packed with the seed of Abraham (and of course not through Ishmael). This is to whom God's promises are made. And it was clearly made via bloodline.
And God's plan for "the Jew", as you say, that is to say, Israel, was pretty much spelled out in Genesis, and the current Jews have accomplished none of it, nor anywhere in the past has Israel blessed all nations.
Sounds to me that your sect has put together a rather weak set of assumptions, none of which work out when examined closely.
I can see why you would be exasperated.
