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To: William Terrell
[I do not see the Israelites mentioned, except as Jews.]

Even when Jesus sent His disciples to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel"? Where were these lost sheep? The Jews were already there. And James, "James a servant of God of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." Well, the Jews weren't scattered anywhere. They were right there in Palestine.

That's right all the tribes were in Israel and were known as Jews!

So when Paul do not offend anyone, Jew, Gentile and Church, he was listing the three categories of people in existence, and the Israelites were known as Jews, as was Anna from the tribe of Asar.

Your theories presume the destruction of Israel, or the effective destruction of Israel (10 whole tribes compared to Judah's 2) so that the remnants could be absorbed into Judah with no increase in population to speak of.

What your theory assumes is that those tribes wandered off somewhere.

Any evidence?

No, what do you need evidence for!

The tribes were all represented by individuals who had gone South when the split had occurred and constant travel back and forth before the Assyrians conquered the North.

Over the hundred years of the split, both nations were actually ruled by a single King, even though they were never officially united, so travel back and forth would not have been difficult.

You continue to have a Hosea problem, as well as an Ezekiel problem.

Actually, I have no problem with either Hosea and Ezekiel.

You have created a straw man argument based on arbitrary assumptions.

You assume that the Northern Kingdom had a large population when conquered.

Any proof-no proof.

The 10 Tribes that went into Assyria disappeared as a national entity, not as individual members of those tribes.

All God needs is a man and woman from each tribe to restart it.

Your theory is bogus and nonsense.

474 posted on 07/30/2007 2:49:00 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
That's right all the tribes were in Israel and were known as Jews! So when Paul do not offend anyone, Jew, Gentile and Church, he was listing the three categories of people in existence, and the Israelites were known as Jews, as was Anna from the tribe of Asar.

Then who were "scattered abroad". Why did Jesus send the disciples to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel"?

. . .as was Anna from the tribe of Asar.

It is well documented that several individuals and families fled the northern kingdom and joined the House of Judah because of the sins therein.

What your theory assumes is that those tribes wandered off somewhere. Any evidence?

Yes, Assyrian tablets from outposts sent back to the Assyrian hierarchy.

The tribes were all represented by individuals who had gone South when the split had occurred and constant travel back and forth before the Assyrians conquered the North. Over the hundred years of the split, both nations were actually ruled by a single King, even though they were never officially united, so travel back and forth would not have been difficult.

And your recorded evidence in proof of this?

The 10 Tribes that went into Assyria disappeared as a national entity, not as individual members of those tribes.

You cannot have it both ways. The people of a nation or kingdom are the nation or kingdom. Each individual retains the memory of that nation or kingdom. If the individuals of the northern kingdom had returned to Palistine, they would have rediscovered and retained their identity.

No, For God's purposes in scattering and allowing their identity to fade, He sent them to other lands.

This is necessary for Hosea and Ezekiel, your scorn and derision notwithstanding.

You appear to be simply afraid of the implications of what I'm saying. It gores your ox somewhere. I, on the other hand, am a Christian, if the Israelite tribes were, as you claim, absorbed into Judah, it would be meaningless to me in terms of my spiritual salvation.

But you are emotional, hurling derision, accusations, scorn and anger in your writing. What part of the Israelite issue affect you in that manner?

482 posted on 07/30/2007 8:11:12 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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