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To: fortheDeclaration
Well, they were placed with other peoples so they would lose their own national identity, which was the purpose of moving them.

I agree. That's why they didn't regain it by combining with the Jews in Palestine. That's why we're having this discussion. Their identity is still lost.

You don't have any idea how many people were exiled. You have no idea of their birth rate. You have no idea of how many were intermarrying with the local people, as did many from the Southern tribes. So, your numbers are all based on assumptions that have no factual basis.

When you have a count of men, you may multiply it 4 or 5 time to get the true population. There was a count of Israelite men at somewhere around a million. I forget which passage in the Old Testament, maybe somewhere in Kings. That would make about 4 or 5 million.

God said be fruitful and multiply, so I would guess all of Israel did.

I suppose some of the northern kingdom intermarried with the Medes, which who they were placed on the Assyria northern border against the Urartu.

But this would have nothing to do with the southern kingdom. They weren't anywhere near the Assyrian/Urartu border.

See my posts on this.

And as I said about those posts, what do they have to do with the northern kingdom and the Medeians (plus others) from whipping the Assyrians and gaining their escape?

Probably stayed where they were an became part of the local population as did the Southern tribes when many did not go with Ezra and were in the Persian Kingdom during the days of Esther.

Anywhere than north through Turkey, huh? Of course.

464 posted on 07/29/2007 3:24:11 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
[Well, they were placed with other peoples so they would lose their own national identity, which was the purpose of moving them.]

I agree. That's why they didn't regain it by combining with the Jews in Palestine. That's why we're having this discussion. Their identity is still lost.

No, the identity of the individual tribes are lost, but the race of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is still in existance, all 12 tribes as Jews.

Do the Jews know who among them are from Judah or Benjamin?

No, even among the Jews, who you state are only from the South, there is no knowledge of what particlur tribe any individual is, Judah or Benjamin.

[ You don't have any idea how many people were exiled. You have no idea of their birth rate. You have no idea of how many were intermarrying with the local people, as did many from the Southern tribes. So, your numbers are all based on assumptions that have no factual basis. ]

, When you have a count of men, you may multiply it 4 or 5 time to get the true population. There was a count of Israelite men at somewhere around a million. I forget which passage in the Old Testament, maybe somewhere in Kings. That would make about 4 or 5 million.

Now stop your nonsense!

There was no count in the Old Testament at the time of the removal of the 10 tribes that stated any population.

What the Old Testament did state was that before Israel was removed, God had began to cut it short, so that it had no army left.

God said be fruitful and multiply, so I would guess all of Israel did.

You would 'guess'?

They were put under a curse for idol worship (Deut.28, Lev.26).

God kept Israel alive as Jews, combing all 12 tribes as one people who returned to the Land, but not as individual tribes.

I suppose some of the northern kingdom intermarried with the Medes, which who they were placed on the Assyria northern border against the Urartu.

Yes, I suppose they did and lost their identity.

But this would have nothing to do with the southern kingdom. They weren't anywhere near the Assyrian/Urartu border.

We are not talking about the Southern Kingdom, which ended up in the Babylonian Kingdom for 70 years and returned to the Land as Jews

We are talking about the 10 tribes which were taken by the Assyrians into their empire and disappeared from history.

See my posts on this. And as I said about those posts, what do they have to do with the northern kingdom and the Medeians (plus others) from whipping the Assyrians and gaining their escape?

Oh stop making up history!

There is no record of the 10 tribes 'whipping the Assyrians and making their escape.

We know what nations were involved in whipping the Assyrians and they weren't the Israelites.

So do you have any actual facts-no, you don't.

Maybe UFO's came down and took them to North America and they are really the American Indian?

[ Probably stayed where they were an became part of the local population as did the Southern tribes when many did not go with Ezra and were in the Persian Kingdom during the days of Esther. ]

Anywhere than north through Turkey, huh? Of course.

No one is recorded to have gone North through Turkey.

Ofcourse, if you want to make up history, any story will do.

475 posted on 07/30/2007 3:05:24 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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