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To: Ping-Pong; Diego1618; fortheDeclaration
The "Nation" of Israel is not the same as the "House" of Israel. The 10 tribes (considered the lost tribes) were of the north.

Was Jesus a Jew? How about Peter or Andrew or John?

They were all from the Northern Kingdom. By your definition, they would have been of the lost tribes. But Jesus' geneaology suggests he was from the tribe of Judah. So what was he doing spending 90% of his life in the Northern Kingdom?

The fact is that by the time Christ was born, the tribes had intermarried so much that it was almost impossible to determine which tribe you were. Only God knew.

306 posted on 07/21/2007 9:54:22 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; Diego1618
Was Jesus a Jew? How about Peter or Andrew or John?

Jesus was a Jew. His lineage was Judah and Levi.

They were all from the Northern Kingdom. By your definition, they would have been of the lost tribes. But Jesus' geneaology suggests he was from the tribe of Judah. So what was he doing spending 90% of his life in the Northern Kingdom?

The northern tribes were gone long before the birth of Christ. They were taken into captivity by Assyria 200 years before Judah was taken into Babylon.

307 posted on 07/21/2007 10:10:17 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: P-Marlowe; Ping-Pong
Was Jesus a Jew? How about Peter or Andrew or John?

Jesus descended from David through the line of Nathan [Luke 3:23-31]. Jesus was a Jew.

They were all from the Northern Kingdom. By your definition, they would have been of the lost tribes.

No....by my definition they were of Judea. The two Kingdoms of Israel and Judah had been gone for quite a while by the time Our Saviour and his Disciples were born. Israel was exiled to Assyria in 721 B.C. so you can see that it was about as long before the first century as the crusades in the thirteenth century were before us. Judah was exiled to Babylon in 595 B.C. 126 years later. It would be very difficult to be a citizen of a country that has not existed for 700 years or so. Judah did come back from captivity 70 years later (Ezra and Nehemiah document this) but they were known by the first century as Judea.....and they had a phony King.

The fact is that by the time Christ was born, the tribes had intermarried so much that it was almost impossible to determine which tribe you were.

Where is your proof of this? Are you just supposing or can you document it?

316 posted on 07/21/2007 4:35:27 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: P-Marlowe
The fact is that by the time Christ was born, the tribes had intermarried so much that it was almost impossible to determine which tribe you were. Only God knew.

Amen.

351 posted on 07/22/2007 10:33:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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