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To: Diego1618; Ping-Pong; fortheDeclaration; Jeremiah Jr; sauropod; Lijahsbubbe; ...
It's painfully obvious that any discussion about the location of the northern tribes (those dispersed by Assyria and mixed among the Gentiles) devolves into accusations about British Israelitism/Identity Movement antisemitism. Easier to point to the extreme beliefs of the antisemitic *lost* and push everyone [who believes Joseph is still alive] over the same cliff, than it is to sort through Scripture to see what's in there.

Is it that hard to hear the prophets? Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Hosea are all singing the same song of redemption and ingathering of the House of Israel, as in the northern kingdom, who are so lost to history that people slam their ears shut to any possibility of their coming back from the dead.

The futile attempts to post evidence remind me of the moral of the story of the rich man and Lazarus:

Luke 16:29-31

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Joseph is still alive, and as a national entity (just as the State of Israel is a nation representing regathered Jews, even though Jews live worldwide) is hiding in plain sight. One could say that Joseph was hiding in plain sight, having risen to the position of vizier of Egypt. There is only one nation of the north, the most powerful and abundantly blessed nation on earth, that like the modern state of Israel, is a nation formed from an gathering of ALL nations, peoples, tongues... not just whites, Anglos, and/or Christians.

Genesis 45:25-28

25 And they went up out of Egypt, and came into the land of Canaan unto Jacob their father,
26 And told him, saying, Joseph is yet alive, and he is governor over all the land of Egypt. And Jacob's heart fainted, for he believed them not.
27 And they told him all the words of Joseph, which he had said unto them: and when he saw the wagons which Joseph had sent to carry him, the spirit of Jacob their father revived:
28 And Israel said, It is enough; Joseph my son is yet alive: I will go and see him before I die.

Well, if Jacob had trouble believing the "impossible", no wonder it's an uphill battle. :-D

Oh, and about the Identity movement crowd. Ironically, they may be correct about having descended from the lost tribes. Emphasis on LOST. The Northern Kingdom wasn't dispersed for its righteousness.

Come to think of it, as long as Ephraim continues to feed on wind and join to idols, he's going nowhere fast.

269 posted on 07/19/2007 7:45:06 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Oh, and about the Identity movement crowd. Ironically, they may be correct about having descended from the lost tribes. Emphasis on LOST.

Yup.....too bad people get lumped together with them by simply quoting scripture about the tribes.

270 posted on 07/19/2007 8:59:58 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Thinkin' Gal
There is only one nation of the north, the most powerful and abundantly blessed nation on earth, that like the modern state of Israel, is a nation formed from an gathering of ALL nations, peoples, tongues... not just whites, Anglos, and/or Christians.

The United States is not in the heritage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

This is the age of the Gentiles and God is blessing the Gentiles on how they treat the children of Abraham, Issac and Jacob (Gen.12).

When the Church is removed, God will again dealing with those same children as the 12 tribes, Jew/Israelite/Hebrew, all of one line.

Now, I stated that someone believed in the British Israelite view didn't haven't to be an antisemite, but it is bad theology, based on conjecture and myth.

But, likewise it is very disingenuous to believe that view and not admit it.

271 posted on 07/20/2007 3:50:34 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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