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To: Ping-Pong
[The Church is in heaven getting judged (1Cor.3, 2Cor.5:10, Rom.14:10) and comes back with the Lord in Rev.19 at the end of the Tribulation. ]

Those scriptures do not mention anyone being judged in heaven. There, of course, will be a judgment and it is spoken of in Rev. 20:12:

The Judgement seat of Christ is not the Great White Throne Judgement.

In the Judgement Seat of Christ, works are tested to see if there are rewards.

No one is lost.

In the White Throne Judgement, the book of life is opened to look for names and if that name is not there, the person is judged by his works and condemned to the Lake of Fire.

Now, since the Church returns with Christ in Rev.19, that Judgement has to occur in heaven.

The Great White Throne Judgement occurs in Rev.20 after the Millennial reign of Christ and the Church is part of the judging, not being judged (1Cor.6)

188 posted on 07/13/2007 5:19:31 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The Judgement seat of Christ is not the Great White Throne Judgement.

I agree with you and I thought that was what I said. Sorry if it wasn't properly stated. There are two judgments.

Now, since the Church returns with Christ in Rev.19, that Judgement has to occur in heaven.

Why do you believe that is the church returning, or I should say, where do you see written that is the church? Those are the believers who have died before us. Of course they come back with Him. The judgement takes place here, not in heaven. (both judgements)

The Great White Throne Judgement occurs in Rev.20 after the Millennial reign of Christ and the Church is part of the judging, not being judged (1Cor.6)

1Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Yes, the saints judge but I don't believe it is after the millennial reign.

Rev.20:4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and which had not worshipped the beast, either his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The scripture is telling me that they "judge and reign" during the millennium, not after. It also tells me that those that were "beheaded", etc. are those that have preceeded us. They are with Him now. The others, those that "neither had received his mark..." have to be those that are here when Satan is on earth. There is no other possibility. If they are raptured away how could they possibly have not worshipped the beast?

Isn't the reward of not worshipping the beast why they reign and judge with Him?

190 posted on 07/13/2007 7:47:48 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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