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You supplied several scriptures that you then interpreted as meaning it was impossible, and a sin. I disagree with your interpretation, the rest of your reasoning being built on this faulty interpretation of the bible falls of it's own weight....I am not trying to argue with you, just tell you I disagree with your interpretation, and I really don't have to argue your interpretation, just tell you I disagree...From your perspective Everything you just said is true, from mine it is all 100% wrong

It is pretty obvious from statements like this that there is really no reason to continue with you. There is no Godly reason. You do not want to discuss the context of scripture. Anyone can use the bible to support any thing they want using the bible out of context. You say you disagree and that I am wrong (because Smith says I am), yet you have not been willing to be Berean with sciptures given you. In the meantime, I pray that someday in this life that you will really undestand what scipture means when it says to call upon His Name. I am not the one that denies you the name "Christian". Actually, your own organization used to, (and they were right in that). I am not afraid of you nor what you teach. The peace of Christ Jesus that passes all understandind testifies to that.

There is an indescribable joy that comes from knowing the Lord. The word means that it is impossible to describe or utter words of this tremendous joy. Once that is in your heart and you know that you are right with God, the one and only true God who created all the heavens and earth, not some god that come from some planet named kolob or whatever, but the one True God, the Almighty who holds all things together, visible and invisible, knowing that you have been declared righteous in His sight because of what He did and nothing on our own, then there is no reason to start relying on myself to please Him.

In our hearts, we KNOW that we cannot please God, yet in our pride and in our sin, wanting to be like God, man suppresses that knowledge (Romans 1) and gathers about him teachers of man-made doctrine with God sounding terminology in order to soothe his itchy ears. Turn to the true God, for He has set eternity in your heart and He is not far away.

I have no interest in "Shooting you down" I would rather build you up and teach you truth, I would rather testify that Jesus Lives and that he has saved you if you will just accept his atonement and begin keeping his commandments! But you would rather argue points of Doctrine, sigh. You said: I really don't care. I am not out to "trap" anyone, but to expose what is not God's truth when it is proclaimed that it is God's Truth. Your posts here belie your words. However, you must understand that I believe I have all the truth you are trying to offer me, plus some added perspectives. what you offer me is the opportunity to forget additional truth and light. Sorry, not interested. You said: I am not ashamed of the gospel, that it is Jesus Christ, the Almighty God in the flesh, who was was the fulfillment, completion of the Law so that all those who call on His name, His nature, will be saved. Great, I call upon his name, I obey his commands, I am following his will to the best of my imperfect ability. I am saved. Yet, you deny me event the name Christian.

It is pretty obvious from statements like this that there is really no reason to continue with you.

(How I see what you are saying)

(you're winning so I'll say there is no reason to continue.)

There is no Godly reason.

(there I'll add Gods name to it, that makes it more important, and it's not really blaspheming)

You do not want to discuss the context of scripture.

(You don't want to accept my interpretation, so I can prove you wrong, I won't even consider yours, but call you "inflexible")

Anyone can use the bible to support any thing they want using the bible out of context.

(Yep, and I already have my interpretation, how dare you questions it!)

You say you disagree and that I am wrong (because Smith says I am), yet you have not been willing to be Berean with scriptures given you.

(I'll point out that we are disagreeing, then add in Joseph's name to make it look like you can't think for yourself, there, that will make me look smarter, and you look like a mind numbed robot, got it. What the heck is a Berean?)

In the meantime, I pray that someday in this life that you will really understand what scripture means when it says to call upon His Name.

(I'll tell him I'm praying fro him, that will make me look pious, and how can you complain about someone praying for you?)

I am not the one that denies you the name "Christian". Actually, your own organization used to, (and they were right in that).

(I'll claim that What I am saying is what his church used to say and that it's all his fault I won't admit he believe in Jesus, then I will declare by fiat that this is the right position,no argument, just a statement of fact, there, reason with an unsubstantiated assertion you!)

I am not afraid of you nor what you teach.

(This guy is good, I'd better tell him I am brave so he doesn't get any ideas he can push me around.)

The peace of Christ Jesus that passes all understanding testifies to that.

(I'll add that my faith will protect me, that should give him pause.)

There is an indescribable joy that comes from knowing the Lord. The word means that it is impossible to describe or utter words of this tremendous joy. Once that is in your heart and you know that you are right with God, the one and only true God who created all the heavens and earth,

I'll talk about how wonderful it is to know what I know, and prepare for an attack at the same time, this one will totally take him by surprise.)

not some god that come from some planet named kolob or whatever, but the one True God, the Almighty who holds all things together, visible and invisible, knowing that you have been declared righteous in His sight because of what He did and nothing on our own, then there is no reason to start relying on myself to please Him.

There, call his stuff Extra-Biblical, quote some Extra-Biblical stuff of my own call his perspective wrong, and mine right, then talk about how I don't have to do anything to be saved, I can keep sinning, it's all been paid for, the proverbial free lunch, that'll be more attractive to lurkers than the "Keep my commandments stuff" this buffoon keeps preaching, Got him!)

In our hearts, we KNOW that we cannot please God, yet in our pride and in our sin, wanting to be like God, man suppresses that knowledge (Romans 1) and gathers about him teachers of man-made doctrine with God sounding terminology in order to soothe his itchy ears. Turn to the true God, for He has set eternity in your heart and He is not far away.

There, after interpreting Scripture, I'll say it is he that is mingling his philosophy with scripture and quote a scripture that says what I am doing is bad and point it at him, innoculation, it's a good thing.)

(Heh Heh, I'll quote him, but not set off his quotes, he won't know where his quote ends and my slam begins ...)

I have no interest in "Shooting you down" I would rather build you up and teach you truth, I would rather testify that Jesus Lives and that he has saved you if you will just accept his atonement and begin keeping his commandments! But you would rather argue points of Doctrine, sigh.

(Dang, left one of his tags in there)

You said: I really don't care. I am not out to "trap" anyone, but to expose what is not God's truth when it is proclaimed that it is God's Truth.

(Dang, I left the part of a previous post where I was caught trying to trap him, note to self, read before posting. Oh well, back to his post I was quoting...)

Your posts here belie your words. However, you must understand that I believe I have all the truth you are trying to offer me, plus some added perspectives. what you offer me is the opportunity to forget additional truth and light. Sorry, not interested.

You said: I am not ashamed of the gospel, that it is Jesus Christ, the Almighty God in the flesh, who was was the fulfillment, completion of the Law so that all those who call on His name, His nature, will be saved.

(Yeah! I need to point out what I believe to be true so he can see his is not true, that'll do it!)

(Dang, left this part in too)

Great, I call upon his name, I obey his commands, I am following his will to the best of my imperfect ability. I am saved. Yet, you deny me even the name Christian.

I can't remember what I was going to say to that, maybe I should preview... Dang, that was post.

I had a lot of fun with your post, I learnt that technique from another freeper who started interpreting my posts and I have to admit it was pretty funny for a while. I must not have as much patience for I found this started to get boring after a while, it like the posts on these threads becomes predictable.