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To: DelphiUser
Nice try, but no soup for you. BYU has made available oblique arguments, but the truth is DNA shows the Native Americans (those people of darker skin the novel 'Book of Mormon' calimed were Lamanites) are related to Asians not Israelites. If Native Americans were related to Israelites, the DNA would show it. It doesn't, it points inexorably to Asians.

Sling a few more dirt clods at the messenger, it will not change the DNA into something it is not to make it verify the lies of the Book of Mormon. BUT WAIT! The assertions of the B of M are not lies if they aren't touted as truth. So, do you want to claim the B of M doesn't claim historically that Native Americans are descended from Israelites? Are you frustrated that we opposers to the heresies of Mormonism won't sit down and shut up when slammed by your 'superior' but empty arguments? Is it frustrating to you that those you have condescendingly claimed cannot match your debating powers merely post the truth about Smith and his fabrications and that exposes the foolishness at the heart of Mormonism? The 'ISM' is in gross error. The people need to hear the truth about the ISM.

392 posted on 07/08/2007 4:18:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL......... keep trying sweetie but it ain’t flying!


394 posted on 07/08/2007 4:25:48 PM PDT by restornu
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To: MHGinTN
Nice try, but no soup for you.

I prefer the steak anyway you soup nazi (sinefeld refence here not actual insult, OK?)

BYU has made available oblique arguments, but the truth is DNA shows the Native Americans (those people of darker skin the novel 'Book of Mormon' claimed were Lamanites) are related to Asians not Israelites.

I can't believe you are still trying to go here. It would be a remarkable feat if the DNA matched, the expectation is that it would not for Judah and Joseph had different mothers so the mitochondrial DNA matching was doomed from the beginning, not to mention that the men in the BOM ,married Women from outside the Line you are supposing to trace with DNA passed from other to daughter, so that's lost too. On top of that, the Indians would inter marry with anybody (white black spanish etc.) so there was no "Pure Indians DNA to work with. I would be more surprised to see a match than the expected, "nope, not enough pieces", and I have programmed DNA searches, so give me a little credit here, your "Proof" is not even remotely credible, go read the article on FARMS.

If Native Americans were related to Israelite, the DNA would show it.

So you think your step brother's mitochondrial (DNA from Mom) would show you were related? Get a grip.

It doesn't, it points inexorably to Asians.

Actually it's also a pretty good match to Scandanavians, but who cares, it does not prove anything, for or against.

Sling a few more dirt clods at the messenger, it will not change the DNA into something it is not to make it verify the lies of the Book of Mormon.

I slung no dirt, only words (grin) Mormons never said it would prove the BOM true, we have enough proof already to be very comfortable with our faith.

BUT WAIT! The assertions of the B of M are not lies if they aren't touted as truth. So, do you want to claim the B of M doesn't claim historically that Native Americans are descended from Israelite?

Shure, they are descendants of Joseph, Step Brother to Judah to whom you are trying to compare matriarchal DNA, it was a flawed study, get over it, it does not prove anything, because the people doing the test did not read their Bible and notice hat Jacob and Judah had different mothers.

Are you frustrated that we opposers to the heresies of Mormonism won't sit down and shut up when slammed by your 'superior' but empty arguments?

Actually, no, it is gratifying when our opponents go to ridiculous lengths to denigrate us, Phony DNA studies, ridiculous examples, postings to anti movies online.
I will tell you one tactic used by Mormons on these threads because it will not matter, the anti's will not be able to help themselves. We answer unreasonableness with reason.
That's it, we come on here and post with scripture that supports our point of view, we are attacked, slandered, and vilified. We do not get mad, for we are here for that very thing, you see the lurkers see the venom, the illogic, the unchristlike behavior of our opponents, and they come to us for more information. Rant all you want, call me names, i did six years in Technical support, My goat is too tired to be gotten, and I can play verbal word games with multiple people at once with no problem, so go ahead, call em names it will only server my cause, or don't that serves my cause too.

Is it frustrating to you that those you have condescendingly claimed cannot match your debating powers merely post the truth about Smith and his fabrications and that exposes the foolishness at the heart of Mormonism?

If people were posting the truth, I would have nothing to do here. as for frustrating, no, I allowed that to happen once, I will not allow it to happen again. As tot he debate, Grin, I was really good, and I did not have half the preoperation and resources we have now. On my mission, I even helped an atheist to see the light, here, I just point the way for lurkers, which reminds me.

To find out more, and not from those who hate us so much they will say the things you see on this forum, go here Or, here or to see a brief synopsis of the LDS churches actual beliefs, go here We promise not to tell any of the antis here you went. The 'ISM' is in gross error. The people need to hear the truth about the ISM.

Speaking of frustration, it must frustrate you that we can post links that lead people away from your misinformation to places where they can learn in peace.

MHG, I truly wish you a good night, may god bless your dreams, may his spirit strive with you on the morrow.
411 posted on 07/08/2007 11:46:25 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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