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The Tide Is Turning Toward Catholicism: The Converts
Catholic Exchange ^ | July 2, 2007 | David Hartline

Posted on 07/04/2007 6:47:22 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Kathy Ann
I could have written most of that article from personal experience. It defines my journey fairly well and why I love my faith as a Catholic and will be eternally thankful to have finally ended up home.

Welcome Home!

I maintain a Catholic ping list. Please freepmail me if you would like to be added to it.

41 posted on 07/04/2007 3:13:06 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: randog
We both felt better after that, and we've since left the good-time, rock-and-roll church (and have heard since that many others have done likewise).

We live in a society that actively promotes "me, myself and I". It's all about feelings and not infrequently, Catholics grow 'bored' with their Sunday liturgy and seek something livelier. Yet another aspect of introspective feelings.

Those Evangelical pastors who take their faith seriously, occasionally end up discovering the Truth. One such pastor was Alex Jones. In his attempt to deliver to his congregation a Sunday celebration resembling the one celebrated by the early christians, dug deeper and into the Early Church Fathers. The result? Read his story below.

Pastor and Flock Convert to Catholicism

42 posted on 07/04/2007 3:22:07 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ears_to_hear
I left for purely doctrinal reasons.

Care to enumerate them? We would all be most appreciative. Thank you!

43 posted on 07/04/2007 3:25:00 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: bethelgrad; Frumanchu
a handful of scholars converting to RCC does not a movement make

The influx of Protestants into the Catholic Church goes well beyond handful. The majority of them are highly educated theologians and pastors.

I can assure you that I have personally led many of yours to a personal relationship with Christ. All I do is read them the scriptures. The words of grace spoken of by Paul do more than remove the barnacles of “tradition,” they convert the soul.

Despite what you may believe, "ours" already have a personal relationship with Christ through the Sacrament of Baptism. If anything, you are leading them into fallacy. Then again, you would not be the first one to do so.

How I Solved the Catholic Problem

44 posted on 07/04/2007 3:35:45 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: ears_to_hear
1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

And that's why I have given up participating in the mega threads (the ones that end up with a couple of proddies arguing with a couple of Catholics). I realize that if the proddies' eyes aren't opened by the Holy Spirit, they will never understand the truth. Far better to pray for them than to waste time arguing with them.

45 posted on 07/04/2007 3:52:22 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: ears_to_hear

I thought I could reconcile my new faith in Christ as my Savior with Catholicism .
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“Born again” was my starting point that led to my becoming Catholic. It hasn’t gone away because I became Catholic. Even in the worst Catholic parish I’ve been in, we were still taught that we were saved by Christ - the atoning death of God’s Son on the cross.

I understand that people do have doctrinal differences with the RC church, but I have never seen anything to back up Protestant or Evangelical assertions that churces teach we are saved by works or by confession and absolution.

Mrs VS


46 posted on 07/04/2007 4:18:05 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Frumanchu

So which is it? Theological reasons or because of inadequacies in the local church? Many people go church shopping these days, often times they leave to find a church that fits their worldview instead of living up to God’s law, to have their ears tickled.


47 posted on 07/04/2007 5:15:13 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: markomalley

Amen to that brother!


48 posted on 07/04/2007 5:25:12 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: Jaded; markomalley

dittos


49 posted on 07/04/2007 5:35:43 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Salvation
I noticed since I worked from the botton up that this is a Protestant group. Not funny that you did not mention it in your reply. Honesty, honesty, honesty.

How dare you suggest I was dishonest! You post like a liberal. You misunderstand my post, you accuse me of lying. I stated nothing but facts and did not intend the truth to be understood as anything other than that.

Sorry about my mistaken post.

That would be this most recent post of yours.

Hopefully everyone knows that they can return to the Catholic Church at any time. All they need to do is find a priest they can talk with and make an appointment for the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession)

My devotion is to Jesus, not the catholic church. Although I'm sure all the men in the group I mentioned grasp that they could return to catholic church I'm quite certain that none would wish to do so. A number of still trying to overcome problems experienced in the catholic church. In following back the roots of the various problems is how we learned that every one had been raised in the catholic church.

It would also be helpful to them if they were to attend a class for Returning Catholics. The one at our church is entitled, “Catholics Can Come Home Again.” Hoever, there are several with different names.

I'm sure you mean well. You won't be seeing any of this group attending that class...none see the catholic church as home, all have their eyes on Jesus.

50 posted on 07/04/2007 5:55:02 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Frumanchu
I was raised a Protestant and was taught that communion was symbolic only. Then eventhough I stopped going to church I continued to read the Bible and read about many other religions.

Then I heard about the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist and everything suddenly made sense. I've been a convert since 1982.

51 posted on 07/04/2007 6:05:30 PM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: ears_to_hear

What don’t you agree with in Catholicism?


52 posted on 07/04/2007 6:07:53 PM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: bethelgrad

Interesting. Do you think that Catholics don’t read Scripture?


53 posted on 07/04/2007 6:11:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Tax-chick
Maybe he meant recently.

We could have said it started with the Ethiopian eunuch . . . .

54 posted on 07/04/2007 6:13:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: RichardMoore; Frumanchu; ears_to_hear; P-Marlowe
I was raised a Protestant and was taught that communion was symbolic only.

Jesus said very clearly, "These words are spirit and they are life."

Jesus truly is present, however, the notion that the bread is flesh is belied by the fact that our pre-crucifixion Jesus was holding the bread that He had broken when He said, "This is my body broken for you."

The "presence" must be interpreted as spiritual and not as transsubstantial.

"But spiritual is not 'real'." some will say. However, "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in Spirit and in Truth."

For those who believe "spiritual" is not real, I suppose they're saying that God, who is Spirit, is not real.

55 posted on 07/04/2007 6:16:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Frumanchu

<<<”Every single person I know who left the Roman Catholic Church did so for theological reasons,...”>>>

You are correct. They could not follow the Magestirum of the Church. They needed contraception and most importantly, the divorce and remarriage direction was to tough too follow. They would rather “think” for themselves rather than obey. It is why they search for years finding those Churches that are “permissive” or at the very least undefined in their actual teachings. The easy way out should I say? Easy way out for those who have no discipline or have never been directed in discipline.


56 posted on 07/04/2007 6:28:46 PM PDT by franky1
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To: Frumanchu

I think you may be right. But the “theological reasons” may be due to lack of poor formation. Just a thought. V’s wife.


57 posted on 07/04/2007 6:32:16 PM PDT by ventana
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yeah, well. The first one who made the news since this fella graduated high school, maybe.


58 posted on 07/04/2007 6:40:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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To: Tax-chick
There DOES seem to have been a rash particularly of Protestant ministers/theologians/professors over the last 5-10 years, however.

Maybe it's just that we hear about them on EWTN though . . .

59 posted on 07/04/2007 6:42:21 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Maybe it's just that we hear about them on EWTN though

I think it's partly that, and also the fact that a greater Catholic emphasis on apologetics has exposed Protestants to knowledge of Catholicism (and Eastern Orthodoxy) that they might not have encountered in the past.

There's also simply the ease of finding information - a person with a question about Catholicism, or wanting to read the Church Fathers (Greek or Latin) just needs a computer.

60 posted on 07/04/2007 6:47:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let all creation sing of salvation. Let us together give praise forever!)
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