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To: Nihil Obstat
Our Lady of Guadalupe was well known throughout the Church from the mid 1500’s - as attested by the Christian fleet that carried the image into battle against the Muslims at LePanto in 1571.

Yes but that was more than likely the Spanish Our Lady of Guadalupe --- not the Mexican --- and it was this Spanish Our Lady of Guadalupe that had also been brought to Mexico from Spain.

103 posted on 06/20/2007 7:42:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
No, it's Mexico's "Our Lady of Guadalupe" that went to battle at LePanto.

"Guadalupe" of Spain has Mary holding baby Jesus. "Guadalupe" Mexico has Mary pregnant about to give birth to baby Jesus.

Spain

As the Moslems swept through Spain in the 8th century, a great religious treasure was buried for safe-keeping in the earth, high in the Estremadura Mountains. It was a much venerated statue of Our Lady holding the Divine Child Jesus that was a gift of Pope Gregory the Great to Bishop Leander of Seville. After the overthrow of Moorish occupation, the image was uncovered in the year 1326, subsequent to a vision of Our Lady to a humble shepherd by the name of Gil. Our Lady's very special statue was enshrined in a nearby Franciscan Monastery next to the "Wolf River."

Mexico

The Aztecs worshipped an evil stone "serpent god" that demanded human sacrifice. It was extremely difficult to win souls for Christ from these bloodthirsty savages. However, with God all things are possible. Our Lady appeared to a humble Aztec Indian convert by the name of Juan Diego in 1531. When asked her name by Juan Diego, at the request of the local bishop, Our Lady's response, in the Aztec language, included the words "te coatlaxopeuh" (pronounced: "te quatlasupe") and meant "one who crushes the head of the stone serpent." To Juan Diego and his fellow Aztecs, this revelation had great meaning, coupled with the miraculous image of Our Lady standing on top of a "crescent," the symbol of this evil serpent god. A tidal wave of conversions to Christianity ensued. However, Bishop Zumarraga, who was from Spain, made what was no doubt a "heavenly mistake". To the Bishop's Spanish ears, Our Lady's Aztec name of "Te Quatlasupe" sounded just like the name of the revered Madonna from Spain with the Islamic name, "Guadalupe." Hence, the bishop named the Mexican Madonna "Our Lady of Guadalupe."

104 posted on 06/20/2007 7:54:22 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Kyrie Eleison)
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m enjoying the story....never knew too much about it.

Thanks for the ping.


106 posted on 06/20/2007 8:21:06 AM PDT by Diego1618
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