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To: markomalley
Why don't you say plainly what you are implying?

I am just telling you what scripture says

Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Jhn 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. Jhn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Jhn 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Jhn 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

The only ones that can pray that prayer are those that have come in faith to Christ. To teach young people that they can call God Father based on their humanity, good works or church attendance is to teach error.

5 posted on 06/17/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear
The only ones that can pray that prayer are those that have come in faith to Christ. To teach young people that they can call God Father based on their humanity, good works or church attendance is to teach error.

I'm still confused. I don't see that the article teaches the opposite than this.

7 posted on 06/17/2007 10:39:38 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: ears_to_hear

Or, is it simply that you object to Catholics saying the “Our Father” (or the Lord’s Prayer, as it is known in certain circles)?


8 posted on 06/17/2007 10:40:37 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: ears_to_hear
•"formula prayer"

•"vocal prayer

•"ascetical prayer"

•"affective prayer"

•"prayer of simplicity"

•"prayer of meditation"

These endless divisions seem like taking a simple subject such as prayer and turning it into legalisms. Christ had a better suggestion.

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..." -- Matthew 6:5-9


9 posted on 06/17/2007 10:57:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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