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To: A.A. Cunningham
You are sadly mistaken and display a monumental ignorance of both Scripture and the history of Christiandom.

Oh really!!! How about this gem from your Catholic Catechism:

#795 "Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. ... Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ."

Well--Well--Well ---- according to your Catholic Catechism, every Catholic is Christ and should therefore be qualified to say Mass and offer those unbloody mystical sacrifices, not just your priests, right??? There should be rejoicing in Catholicdom --- no more shortage of Christs, err priests, that is.

35 posted on 06/17/2007 9:25:43 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; A.A. Cunningham
Context, context, context.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.230

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.231

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.232

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."233

Just as the Bible was never meant to have single verses plucked for prooftexting, nor was the Catechism. The section that contains this paragraph speaks of the relation of Christ and the Church, and specifically the position of the Church as part of the Mystical Body of Christ.

The section in its entirety can be found here.

Incidentially, the quote you mention was given by St. Augustine, darling of Evangelicals, other Protestants, and even several of the reformers themselves.

36 posted on 06/17/2007 9:39:04 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Pray for your priests and seminarians...)
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To: Uncle Chip
Well--Well--Well ---- according to your Catholic Catechism, every Catholic is Christ and should therefore be qualified to say Mass and offer those unbloody mystical sacrifices, not just your priests, right???

Only according to a neophyte like yourself.

Here are a few more gems from Scripture that have obviously sailed over and/or through your grape.

"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God." 1 Corinthians 1:23-24

"And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come." 1 Corinthians 11:25-27

"I am the bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever. These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum. Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it? But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you? If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him. And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father. After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him." John 6:48-67

It's intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that had you been around for this, you and many of your "enlightened" brethren around here would have been those beating feet.

54 posted on 06/17/2007 4:28:47 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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