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To: A.A. Cunningham; Dr. Eckleburg
The truth is that anyone who thinks that protestants don't have a problem which either equals or exceeds that of the Catholic Church are fools, liars or both.

Trust me - you don't want to go down this path. The numbers cited in those two websites are an apples vs oranges comparison versus the Catholic church's own numbers as provided by your own U.S. Catholic Bishops. If you isolate the cases actually committed by clergy out of your examples, and then compare like-for-like with the numbers provided in the U.S. Catholic Bishops' "John Jay" study, it can be demonstrated that there are approximately four times as many Catholic priests and clergy who are sexually abusive, than the number of "Protestant" pastors guilty of the same.

I'm not saying that either set of statistics are inaccurate or deliberately falsified. I'm just saying that your numbers, if accepted at face value and if I've understood them properly, paint a far worse picture on the Catholic side than you're probably aware of.

145 posted on 06/16/2007 8:54:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; ears_to_hear; HarleyD; Gamecock; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; ..
If you isolate the cases actually committed by clergy out of your examples, and then compare like-for-like with the numbers provided in the U.S. Catholic Bishops' "John Jay" study, it can be demonstrated that there are approximately four times as many Catholic priests and clergy who are sexually abusive, than the number of "Protestant" pastors guilty of the same.

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Anyone interested in a factual and realistic depiction of the problem in the RCC should see the DVD, "Deliver Us From Evil."

Here's a long list of reviews now online...

'DELIVER US FROM EVIL' REVIEWS

Entertainment Weekly: Brilliant and psychologically transfixing documentary."

Christian Science Monitor: "Most powerfully, Berg also films a number of O'Grady's victims as they recount their trauma and, in some cases, loss of faith."

Philadelphia Inquirer: "Courageous, shattering and exceptional documentary."

Seattle Post-Intelligencer: "A heartbreaking look at broken trust."

Portland Oregonian: "As a study of a predator, "Evil" is fascinating and enraging."

Chicago Reader: "The outrages of pedophile priests have generated screaming headlines but relatively little understanding of the Catholic culture that permitted and concealed such crimes, which makes this informed documentary by Amy Berg all the more valuable."

The New York Times: "Neither sensationalistic nor sentimental, Ms. Berg's film is clear-sighted, tough-minded and devastating, a portrait of individual criminality and institutional indifference, a study in the betrayal of trust and the irresponsibility of authority."

USA Today: "Deliver Us From Evil is so horrifying it makes "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" look like a walk in the park."

The Globe and Mail (Toronto): "Another angry, searching document about pedophile priests, Deliver Us from Evil makes for unexpectedly gripping drama."

Chicago Tribune: "Deliver Us From Evil has a few things wrong with it, including an egregious musical score, but without resorting to sucker punches, it takes your breath away while making your skin crawl."

TV Guide: "The most infuriating revelation in Amy Berg's powerful documentary is the lengths to which current Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahoney and other church officials went to protect Father O'Grady and themselves, even though it meant knowingly delivering countless other children into a child molester's hands."

New York Post: "This superb documentary about the Catholic Church's worst pedophile scandal is in many ways far scarier than any fiction."

New York Daily News: "Amy Berg's riveting documentary, tracks O'Grady's predatory trail from San Andreas, Calif., to Ireland, where he is now living on a church pension that was apparently meant to buy his silence."

Boston Globe: "It isn't often you get to meet the devil in all his glory, but here he is in Deliver Us From Evil, and his name is Father Oliver O'Grady."

The Hollywood Reporter: "With an immediacy and intimacy that news reports can't provide, this deeply affecting documentary explores the pedophile crisis that has shaken the edifice of the Catholic Church."

Variety: "So harsh and damning is the pic toward the current Catholic leadership -- personified by Los Angeles-based Cardinal Roger Mahony, who oversaw O'Grady's stewardship at various central California parishes in the 1970s and '80s, that charges the church operates "like the Mafia" sound spot-on."

Village Voice: Berg by no means excuses Father O'Grady, but she offers evidence of a devastating childhood that explains his pathology. For the ambitious creeps who allowed him to indulge it, and who still sit in office, there's no excuse."

San Francisco Chronicle: "The spellbinding power of this almost certain Oscar nominee for best documentary comes from its chilling subject matter."

Washington Post: "Works best when it concentrates on O'Grady and the ever-rippling effect of his transgressions. Viewers may not remember the victims whose stories practically pierce the heart, but they're unlikely to forget O'Grady's deceptively innocent face."

The scenes of Cardinal Roger Mahoney's taped depositions are worth the price of the DVD or rental alone.

A major difference between sexual abuse in Protestant churches and in the RCC is that in the former, the accused ministers are taken out of the pulpit, investigated, and if proven guilty, they are dismissed.

In the RCC, offending priests are shuffled around under the cloak of night to other unsuspecting parishes where they continue to prey on children and families without end.

152 posted on 06/16/2007 11:14:06 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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