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To: RobbyS

Face it, no matter what you say, no matter what you do, some of them will twist it.

Their goal is the utter annihilation of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Period. Nothing short of that will satisfy them.

Not all of them. Some of them.

You can figure out the causes and implications of the position they take for yourself.


143 posted on 06/16/2007 8:27:30 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: markomalley; RobbyS

I understand. It was what I made an effort to express in #114 on this thread.

The impetus to bring down the Church seems to be the foremost form of Christian witness for some.


146 posted on 06/16/2007 9:25:07 AM PDT by Running On Empty (1)
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To: markomalley

Fact is that they and we start from contradictory premises. More than that, we do not ever share the same store of facts. They wish to limit the facts to what is contained in Scripture. Then they impose their own Reform tradition on those recorded events while refusing to admit that it IS tradition. Is it irony or paradox that we see evangelicals who repudiate much of the positive (Catholic) content of Luther’s thought or even the well-contructed theology of Calvin and by no means have digested the very excellent work of someone like Karl Barth, even the excellent work of some of the original Fundamentalists for ...what? Talking points that Bellarmine demolished more than four hundred years, whose force they avoid simply by abandone dthe common ground that Bellarmine claimed.


154 posted on 06/16/2007 11:18:46 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHOa)
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