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To: pjr12345
Jesus was standing right in front of them when He instituted this Remembrance, and He had not yet been to the cross.

This only means that every Mass is a connection across time to the same sacrifice of the Golgotha. Likewise, you would note that the Precious Body is present in many churches and many ears following the Cross.

The Scripture does not leave a clear teaching whether the Last Supper had Real Presence in the elements as well as in Christ in the natural sense, but that surely does not point to the symbolic or mere memorial future act, since the commandment is to "do it" at times future, relative to the Last Supper.

If we cannot agree, we have no choice but to continue in disagreement

True. What I mean is that there are things that the Church teaches, yet other reasonable explanations of the same scripture exist. For example, one can make a reasonable argument from scripture alone that Baptism cannot be given to children, or that divorced people may remarry if the divorce was on grounds of adultery (the Church teaches that children before the age of reason may be baptised, and the marriage after any divorce may not happen). This is not one of such cases: the totality of the scripture alone, and especially 1 Cor 11:29 exclude the Protestant view of symbolic presence.

72 posted on 06/11/2007 5:34:36 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
This only means that every Mass is a connection across time to the same sacrifice of the Golgotha. Likewise, you would note that the Precious Body is present in many churches and many ears following the Cross.

Now you're just asking me for the "Gene Roddenberry was a Catholic" theory!

Disagree, we shall.

Very good dialog. Thank you!

73 posted on 06/11/2007 5:42:45 PM PDT by pjr12345 (But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20)
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