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To: pjr12345
But of course the context is very different, and in the case of "this is my body" there is an elaboration in John 6. The context of "I am the door" and "I am the vine" is consistent with the metaphorical speech. The context of the Last Supper and John 6 is not consistent:

Finally, there is a direct scripture that condemns a refusal to believe in the Real Presence: "he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord" (1 Cor 11:29). It is therefore not a matter of agreeing to disagree as in some other aspects of the scripture open to interpretation.

69 posted on 06/11/2007 4:58:31 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
But of course the context is very different...

Your supporting statement is filled with speculation and/or extrapolation.

Jesus was standing right in front of them when He instituted this Remembrance, and He had not yet been to the cross. The bread and wine couldn't possibly be His body at that time (or ever). It makes more sense, and is more in line with His parable method of teaching, to view this as metaphorical symbolism.

Symbolism detracts nothing from the importance of this Commemoration. It is certainly required that we pay proper honor and respect to the Sacrifice which we remember. Thus, Paul's warning remains valid and pointed.

I'm not sure what you mean by, It is therefore not a matter of agreeing to disagree as in some other aspects of the scripture open to interpretation. Clearly we disagree. If we cannot agree, we have no choice but to continue in disagreement, and thereby agree to do so.

71 posted on 06/11/2007 5:22:25 PM PDT by pjr12345 (But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20)
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